It's apparent my sarcasom was lost on you and SixFoFalcon.Originally posted by FlamingTaco+Dec 1 2004, 11:14 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FlamingTaco @ Dec 1 2004, 11:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>@Oct 29 2004, 08:42 AM
If you think the intake's ingress through the fender wall was a restriction, don't look at your MAF.
what's wrong with my 80mm MAF? always flowed enough for me. and its only what? 3 times the area of the pinch point in the fender wall?
There is not such a strong restriction in the stock intake that better dyno results come from installing a high-flow intake that pulls from the engine bay, unless that intake includes a super or turbo charger. My stock MAF is good for 300-350hp before I'll worry about it being a restriction, and the crimp in the fender pass-through flows even better.
Stock intakes almost always promote low-end torque. The engine may respond to the throttle quicker, but you almost always lose low-end torque, and unless you get a corresponding increase in horsepower peak, your 1/4 mile times will be slower. [/b][/quote]
I tried applying mental sarcasm to that comment...but it still doesn't make any sense. I don't know what you're running, but my MAF flows much better than that quarter sized pinch point in the fender. I could feel the increase in right off the line performance by just putting a cone filter on the end of the MAF in the engine, and the much improved throttle responce was very nice. the improved performance was proven on the track. I'm not sure if I can dig up the slips or not...I ran at the strip stock, then again with the K&N. the track was very slick that day for some reason, and most people were getting terrible times because no one (including civic drivers) couldn't get any traction off the line. I ran the same time I did on a dry track. with the full cool air intake I lost some engine sound, throttle responce went down a small amount, but still better than stock. and performance was once again better. SHOShop dynoed their gen III with the cone intake in the engine comparment, with nothing but a plastic shield to keep the hottest air away from it, this setup is not even as good as a true cool air intake, but their dyno showed 8hp gain at the wheels from the modification. and yes sometimes people do talk about SHO Shop as being mostly a gen I/II resource, and not so much a good source for parts or anyting for gen IIIs, but amid the critisizm, one thing that is always said is that they don't exaggerate the gains they see on the dyno.
the point being, aftermarket filters either in the engine compartment or in the fender is not now, nor has it ever been a worthless modification