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Hi, there:

I have a Mercury 2001 sable. The engine was running fine in the last one year. But last weekend, when I was coming back from a high way trip, I felt the engine was trembling when I was waiting at the traffic light. I open the front hood cover, and the engine was indeed shaking. But when I pressed the pedal and let the speed go higher, the engine became smooth again. Are there any suggestions to debug the problem?

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my advice,hurry and sell it,fords are junk,i have the same problem with my 2006 taurus,its been to the dealer six times in the last month and they cannot figher it out,so far they have replaced the fuel filter,spark plugs,air filter,maf senser,idle air control,cleaned the throttle body,replaced,the intake gaskets,head gaskets,plug wires and the imrc gasket,and guess what?same problem.3,200 dollars later,please,please please sell it and buy a kia
 

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QUOTE (lightin @ May 31 2010, 01:40 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=808115
my advice,hurry and sell it,fords are junk,i have the same problem with my 2006 taurus,its been to the dealer six times in the last month and they cannot figher it out,so far they have replaced the fuel filter,spark plugs,air filter,maf senser,idle air control,cleaned the throttle body,replaced,the intake gaskets,head gaskets,plug wires and the imrc gasket,and guess what?same problem.3,200 dollars later,please,please please sell it and buy a kia[/b]
Someone saw you coming, prolly based on your attitude decided to teach you a lesson. Fords are junk eh? I have a 1992 Taurus GL Wagon, with 370K miles on it, replaced starter, and radiator, and 4 batteries, and changed the oil / tranny fuid at regular intervals, nothing else. Drove to Maryland and back 4 times, Indianna, Missouri, Cali, Atlantic City, and I live in TampaBay Area Florida... FORDS ARE JUNK? I should think not. OTOH, Abused Fords like to retaliate.
 

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Thanks a lot for the comments here.

I unplugged the spark plug wire and found the rust inside. So I will try the simplest thing first to replace the spark plug. Fortunately, there was no error code in the engine ECU.

The engine isn't idling smoothly when the car stopped. It even shut down once when I was waiting at the traffic. So I have to make it to a drivable condition before considering selling or trade.

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I DID NOT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE I HAD A BAD ATTITUIDE,I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE FROM GETTING RIPPED OFF BY THE AMERICAN AUTO MANUFACTURERS,PLEASE BUY A FOREIGN CAR SO YOU CAN AVOID THE ULCER
 

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I DID NOT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE I HAD A BAD ATTITUIDE,I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE FROM GETTING RIPPED OFF BY THE AMERICAN AUTO MANUFACTURERS,PLEASE BUY A FOREIGN CAR SO YOU CAN AVOID THE ULCER[/b]
ok here i go again,today driving home from work my cars idleing got worse,now its bearly running,i guess it must go back to the dealer,ill keep you posted.
 

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QUOTE (lightin @ May 31 2010, 09:20 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=808208
I DID NOT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE I HAD A BAD ATTITUIDE,I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE FROM GETTING RIPPED OFF BY THE AMERICAN AUTO MANUFACTURERS,PLEASE BUY A FOREIGN CAR SO YOU CAN AVOID THE ULCER[/b]
ok here i go again,today driving home from work my cars idleing got worse,now its bearly running,i guess it must go back to the dealer,ill keep you posted.
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i just had a problem similiar to this. The idle started to get rough. It got even worse, to the point it sometimes died at intersections. It finally completely died this past weekend at a stop light. Took it to the dealer and they found the mass air flow sensor had all kinds of pollen on it, causing it to malfunction. They cleaned it up and it runs fine now.
 

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QUOTE (lightin @ May 31 2010, 01:40 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=808115
my advice,hurry and sell it,fords are junk,i have the same problem with my 2006 taurus,its been to the dealer six times in the last month and they cannot figher it out,so far they have replaced the fuel filter,spark plugs,air filter,maf senser,idle air control,cleaned the throttle body,replaced,the intake gaskets,head gaskets,plug wires and the imrc gasket,and guess what?same problem.3,200 dollars later,please,please please sell it and buy a kia[/b]
My advise is to learn how to trouble shoot (don't assume the dealer knows how to). That fact that none of the parts you used fixed the problem means you replaced $3200 worth of good parts. Now it could have been a lemon, those do happen with every brand.

Fords are generally good quality, and probably the best American brand.

For the reference, Kias are garbage. Toyota is getting their just rewards, Honda has been having a lot of issues too. Hyundai is still a good car for 3-5 years, but after that!!!

Ford is winning awards on their new cars for quality that is trumping the top imports.

I have many Fords, and most of them are high mileage, have not had a lot of problems. My lowest mileage car is my Taurus at 141,000.
 

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I had the idle problem ever since I filled the gas tank to completely full last Sunday. I went to a mechanics shop this morning and they inspected everything except the mass air flor sensor, because they didn't have the tool to test the sensor. Is it easy to open up the sensor and clean it ourselves?

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QUOTE (robertlucent @ Jun 3 2010, 09:30 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=808941
I had the idle problem ever since I filled the gas tank to completely full last Sunday. I went to a mechanics shop this morning and they inspected everything except the mass air flor sensor, because they didn't have the tool to test the sensor. Is it easy to open up the sensor and clean it ourselves?

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Rob[/b]
Yup. Four screws attached to your air box, and a hose clamp on the other side of the MAF housing. Take the entire tube out, spray a ton of electrical contact cleaner through the sample tube (you'll know it when you see it) and allow 5-10 min to dry. Then replace and enjoy.
 

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QUOTE (Palach @ Jun 3 2010, 10:50 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=808950
Yup. Four screws attached to your air box, and a hose clamp on the other side of the MAF housing. Take the entire tube out, spray a ton of electrical contact cleaner through the sample tube (you'll know it when you see it) and allow 5-10 min to dry. Then replace and enjoy.[/b]
I would use MAF cleaner instead.
 

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Thanks a lot guys. I will start from cleaning the MAF sensor this afternoon. And to test the vacuum leak, is there any simple way to do that?

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to the douche who joined a forum just to talk to talk trash about the product, this might help you.

Check this thread out;

http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=62583

Rob,

Go to a parts store and get maf cleaner, and throttle body cleaner. Might as well clean them both while you're taking things off. It's very simple and self explanatory. When it runs rough at idle, try tapping on the iac with the handle of a screwdriver (it's the cylindrical thing with 2 wires on it coming off the intake right by the throttle body). If it evens out, replace that. Have the parts store check for pending codes, there might be something there. Grab a couple extra cans of tb cleaner and spray around any vacuum lines, intake gaskets, anything that's hooked up to the intake system, to try to find a vacuum leak. There wil be a surge of the engine or it will start to die when you find the leak with the spray. Make sure to check everything in the egr, and the pcv, system, clean the ports in the tb really well.
 

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If it only happens at idle- do you have the air on? if so, try turning it off- if this helps, get your system charged. Mine has done this too.
 

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QUOTE (lightin @ May 31 2010, 09:20 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=808208
I DID NOT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE I HAD A BAD ATTITUIDE,I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE FROM GETTING RIPPED OFF BY THE AMERICAN AUTO MANUFACTURERS,PLEASE BUY A FOREIGN CAR SO YOU CAN AVOID THE ULCER[/b]


not to high jack a thread but wtf is this guy thinking. if any think they see this guy coming. he takes it to a dealership to get it repaired for one you got riped twice you more then likely took it to the same dealer you got it from??? i have heard and seen a bad chevy dealer which will remain nameless i would rather buy my car there then buy a honda or toyota after hearing what that guy said now i know why i would not own a foreign car btw there is no such think as "imports" or "foreign cars" any more most are made right here in the good old us of a. so forget jdm too. btw take to another dealer or claim the lemon law duh.



back to the original post it is more then likely the car need plug / wire basically a tune up to the guy with the original post also sorry to sound like a prick stupidity ticks me off.
 

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QUOTE (lightin @ May 31 2010, 08:20 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=808208
I DID NOT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE I HAD A BAD ATTITUIDE,I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE FROM GETTING RIPPED OFF BY THE AMERICAN AUTO MANUFACTURERS,PLEASE BUY A FOREIGN CAR SO YOU CAN AVOID THE ULCER[/b]
The problem is you were getting ripped off by a dealer that can't fix a car correctly, or find what is causing the problem. They're throwing parts at a problem they don't know how to fix, and charging you for it. Ford Motor Company dosen't own the dealership, somebody else does. If you can't figure out what's wrong on your own, take it to a independent, non-chain shop that has a good master mechanic that knows what he is doing, not some 19 year old kid fresh out of tech school. My Taurus has been one of the most reliable cars I've had, next to the first Taurus I had, and the Escort I had (please note: all Ford products). The problem with yours is shaddy dealer mechanics.
 
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