[dant98]

This has probably been posted before, but it really disturbs me. I was in fact looking for the motor mount locations on a Windstar and somehow this came up.

http://homepages.tscnet.com/sosburn/Taurus.htm

Most of the problems these folks have reports is probably due to poor maintenance or abuse of the vehicle prior to ownership. The one guy complained that he never gets the expected life out of his tires. how the hell can you blame that on ford? Is there like a little piece of metal hanging down in your tire wells that is scraping the rubber off your tires? I mean come on! Obviously this guy doesn't know what an alignment is!

Can we post a link up there that leads back here? :lol:

Anywho..
[/rant]

-Dan

 

[n2_space]

Sites like that just sound like

 

[jason8225]

After reading through all that, those people are idiots. Don't they realize their cars are like 7 years old at the time they are complaining?? A lot of those complaints are frivilous and cheap repairs. The guy who started the site had a whopping $265 in repairs for the first 7 years He never mentioned anything about maintenance other than "he knew what it needed" and that what was expected was not necessary and stuff - it's clear that he probably didn't take care of the car. What kind of life do they expect out of a car? Not only that, but why would they be paying $2k to replace headgaskets?? Can't they get it done cheaper? Then they say their Datsun lasted 17 years. If I'm not mistaken, that was a RWD V8 - there is no comparison between that and a Taurus. FWD vehicles simply are not as durable and don't last as long IMO. It's like comparing a Truck to a FWD car. /end rant. <_<

 

[golovko]

Originally posted by Kermitec@Jul 1 2004, 10:49 AM
Keep your politics out of the car sections of the Forums please! :curse: That crap belongs in debates or odds and ends.

Well said.



I happened upon that site when I was considering purchasing my current Taurus. I read through some of it, but it didn't turn me off to buying the car. I couldn't pass up the deal, and the car has been great for me.

 

[fvt]

Originally posted by dant98@Jul 1 2004, 08:07 AM
This has probably been posted before, but it really disturbs me.  I was in fact looking for the motor mount locations on a Windstar and somehow this came up.

http://homepages.tscnet.com/sosburn/Taurus.htm

Most of the problems these folks have reports is probably due to poor maintenance or abuse of the vehicle prior to ownership.  The one guy complained that he never gets the expected life out of his tires.  how the hell can you blame that on ford?  Is there like a little piece of metal hanging down in your tire wells that is scraping the rubber off your tires?  I mean come on!  Obviously this guy doesn't know what an alignment is!

Can we post a link up there that leads back here? :lol:

Anywho..
[/rant]

-Dan

that website is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo G.A.Y. :gay:

 

[Sablewagon]

That site's a joke. I could find more holes in his "story" than there are in a truckload of Swiss cheese.

Let him buy his beloved Datsun. He deserves it.

 

[diesel600]

Hey, the guy has some legitimate complaints. Warped rotors have been a problem on Tauri forever. And motor mounts and head gaskets break on the 3.8 so much. They are design problems that Ford should have remedied. Most of the things he talks about don't look maintenance related to me, although he could stand to find a good alignment shop. My car's been pissing me off so much lately I'm about ready to add myself to that site.

 

[NateNBeckie]

We all know about these problems, and this guy is just ranting because he is one of the people that got a car with the problems. Think about how many Taurus' Ford had produced through the years, and look at how many actually had the issues. Sure every Taurus has had warped rotors, but so did my Ranger, my Contour, my MPV, my Escort, my dad's 89' Cougar, all of the company GMC trucks I had, etc. Head gaskets, well we had our company GMC trucks with issues, and a lot of other cars had head gasket issues. Tranny problems, show me a manufacturer that hasn't had cars with tranny problems. Short tire life? Keep your foot off the gas and stop driving like an arse. This guy is just pissed because he got a bum Taurus so he has to make himself feel better somehow. I just find it sad that he has to do it this way because he has the .5% of Taurus' on the road that have major problems. I'm sure if he had a 96' GMC 1500 truck he would be bitching about different things.

The point is no matter what car some people have they will do nothing but bitch. I'm sure he does it with his TV's and computers, etc.

Some people will never be happy unless they are crying about something.

 

[jason8225]

Originally posted by NateNBeckie@Jul 1 2004, 01:50 PM
We all know about these problems, and this guy is just ranting because he is one of the people that got a car with the problems. Think about how many Taurus' Ford had produced through the years, and look at how many actually had the issues. Sure every Taurus has had warped rotors, but so did my Ranger, my Contour, my MPV, my Escort, my dad's 89' Cougar, all of the company GMC trucks I had, etc. Head gaskets, well we had our company GMC trucks with issues, and a lot of other cars had head gasket issues. Tranny problems, show me a manufacturer that hasn't had cars with tranny problems. Short tire life? Keep your foot off the gas and stop driving like an arse. This guy is just pissed because he got a bum Taurus so he has to make himself feel better somehow. I just find it sad that he has to do it this way because he has the .5% of Taurus' on the road that have major problems. I'm sure if he had a 96' GMC 1500 truck he would be bitching about different things.

The point is no matter what car some people have they will do nothing but bitch. I'm sure he does it with his TV's and computers, etc.

Some people will never be happy unless they are crying about something.

:withstupid:

Well said. I couldn't agree more.

Now that you say that, it just made me realize that I still see a TON of Gen 1 and 2 Tauri running around in decent shape and I see them at used car lots all the time, most of them with insane mileage. I think, overall, they hold up really well. Not to mention the bazillion Gen 3's and 4's running around here.

 

[kermitec]

Originally posted by jason8225@Jul 1 2004, 08:42 AM
Then they say their Datsun lasted 17 years. If I'm not mistaken, that was a RWD V8 - there is no comparison between that and a Taurus. FWD vehicles simply are not as durable and don't last as long IMO. It's like comparing a Truck to a FWD car. /end rant. <_<

The Datsun they had was a 4 banger FWD. Those cars put Datsun (Nissan) on the forefront of reliable small cars. My brother had one and tried to kill it through lack of maintenance, He finally had to give it away still running

 

[jason8225]

Originally posted by Kermitec+Jul 1 2004, 03:10 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kermitec @ Jul 1 2004, 03:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jason8225@Jul 1 2004, 08:42 AM
Then they say their Datsun lasted 17 years.  If I'm not mistaken, that was a RWD V8 - there is no comparison between that and a Taurus.  FWD vehicles simply are not as durable and don't last as long IMO.  It's like comparing a Truck to a FWD car. /end rant.  <_<

The Datsun they had was a 4 banger FWD. Those cars put Datsun (Nissan) on the forefront of reliable small cars. My brother had one and tried to kill it through lack of maintenance, He finally had to give it away still running [/b][/quote]
my bad, I don't know a whole lot about them (obviously)

 

[diesel600]

We all know about these problems,

True, most of us here do, and most of us accept them, but that doesn't mean that everybody out there does. Maybe he felt it was important to educate others out there considering a Taurus that know little about the cars.

this guy is just ranting because he is one of the people that got a car with the problems

Wouldn't you be upset if you got one? I know I would. You don't know his situation. Maybe this was the first brand new car ever he was able to buy after only being able to afford beater after beater. If the first brand new car I buy has as many problems, I will be pretty disappointed and upset too.

Sure every Taurus has had warped rotors, but so did my Ranger, my Contour, my MPV, my Escort, my dad's 89' Cougar, all of the company GMC trucks I had, etc

That doesn't mean it's ok. All of our Tauri have had problems with warped rotors, none of our other vehicles ever have.

Head gaskets, well we had our company GMC trucks with issues, and a lot of other cars had head gasket issues.

Not too many motors with head gasket issues as bad as the 3.8. The Chrysler 2.2 / 2.5 is one, and surely there are some more, but the 3.8 ranks up there as one of the worst. I have never owned one, but from the number of people I know who have had problems, and from other info I have gathered, I think Ford should have really done something about it.

The point is no matter what car some people have they will do nothing but bitch. I'm sure he does it with his TV's and computers, etc.

I disagree. I never really bitched much about my '93, and it was not totally trouble free, but at least the stuff that was needed was consistent with a car of its age and mileage. Things wear out and break, but when lots of problems arise prematurely, as is happening with my '99, I'm gonna bitch about it, because it sucks and shouldn't happen when a car is properly maintained and not whooped on.

I'm not trying to butt heads here, just giving a different perspective.

 

[NateNBeckie]

Different perspectives welcome.

I would be ranting about the car too if it had so many problems. I guess what I was trying to say is that him bashing the Taurus isn't accomplishing anything other than making himself feel better.


You are right, Ford should have done something about it. Ford has a lot of problems they should be doing something about (V8 SHO cams are another one). Out of the big 3, they seem to be the worst in this department.

Anywho, I'm leaving work. Everyone have a good holiday weekend and don't get shot in the eye by a bottle rocket. :lol2:

 

[jason8225]

I just wanted to state that, for the record, IIRC from reading that site, Ford did extend the warranty on the 3.8 due to the headgasket issue. So it's not like they completely ignored it.

 

[XLSuruaT]

I dont see what is wrong with that site. Surely they are complaining, but it lets a potential owner aware of problems with the vehicle...in many cases, this may be better and safer than not knowing. If our (I mean "your" ) transmissions are bulletproof, then who would put a cooler on it? No one would have known a cooler would help if there wasn't any problems reported.

If I was ready to buy a taurus and I saw an immaculate '91 for sale, you dont think I would want to know that those were the worst years because of the axod-e?

It is criticism like this which helps the consumer in the end. You think toyota would have covered the sludge problems if no one said anything about it?

 

[91MercSable3.8L]

I hate to say it, but I wish I would have seen that page before I bought my Sable. it wouldn't have kept me from buying a Taurus/Sable, but atleast I would have known what to expect and would have looked for one with ALOT less milage and a 3.0 instead.

in the 6-8 months that I've owned it I have already put quite a bit into repairs.

$1,600 for transmission overhaul, Transmission cooler (which didn't help too much), motor mounts, and a few hoses
$800 for break all around
$200 - $300 in parts to fix little problems here and there.

Then I decided that I had to sell it.

Repairs it needed. (quote from my mechanic came up to little over $3,000, there are more problems that are listed, but those are all I remember)

ANOTHER problem with the transmission that needed to be fixed.
Power steering pump leaked like hell, gave out, and damaged rack and pinion
CV Joints
pretty much a complete new Front end.

Finally. Blown head gasket to the point it leaked 4 1/2 Quarts of oil on a 15mile trip to the dealership (traded car in 2 days after problem for my new car)

With repair bills up to a nice $5,700 that could have paid for a HUGE down payment for a brand new car, I wonder why I even put up with half the problems. Should have just scrapped it and said to hell with it.

I know I got a beat to **** car. but I don't hate the car for it. ford could have done ALOT beter on 1/2 the problems the car had. but they didn't.

 

[rocketfast321]

he is just telling about his problems i wish some one told me about the problems i was going to have on my car

factory battery going dead after 2 years
Broken window regulators
bad brakes
Security light come on for no reason
Gas gage has a mind of it's own now.

The 3400 engine
lower intake manifold problems. Why does have to go out so many times. People have reported there's going out as low as 24k. At lease the 3100 is not as bad as the 3400

 

[jaybs95]

I personally have always checked car reports (even before the internet became popular) and spoke with people who owned a vehicle prior to buying one, and most of all previous experiences with the manufacturer (good or bad)
It's a matter of research (for the used car buyer, sorry to the people who bought them new)...

I have owned a variety of Fords (all used)
89 T-bird (sold)
88 Ranger XLT (Donated- Blown Head gasket)
92 Taurus GL (sold)
79 Bronco XLT (Junked- Blown tranny)
95 Taurus GL (current Vehicle)

and I replaced transmissions on 3 out of the 5!!
And I still bought a Taurus (previous owner had tranny rebuilt less than a year ago :banana: )

Ford has never been know for their tranny's (ask any tranny shop... even got that from their service manager (i won't tell if you won't)), but I have been always been able to get 170,000 miles plus out of all of them.

Tires, front end, brakes, water pump Ect. are all things I EXPECT to go!!
Personally I never had a problem w/ my Ford dealership (lucky I guess)

You can find stories like that for every manufacturer. All it takes is ONE person and others will chime in.
I like my Ford despite some of it's shortcomings.

Sorry for the long post and the rant.
Just my $.02
"J"
P.S. if you don't like it get rid of it, but get off the soap box

 

[my car has peeling paint]

Blastphemer!!

My 90 Sable lasted me 14 years. If I fix it up, it will be a good car. The car still moves under its own power. All the car needs is a front main seal in the motor, repair the leak in the brakes and an alignment.

 

[Doc]

When you buy a used car, EXPECT it to be trashed and neglected.

Yes, Ford has handled the problems poorly but to buy a used car and then complain when it breaks down is like acting surprised when you stick your finger in a light socket and getting shocked. When I buy for my wife she gets new so I don't have to deal with repairs. When I buy for me I get used because I plan to replace the engines/trannies anyway with improved/upgraded versions.