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Alright, I totally understand how that last post was WAAAY to long, I thought I only had a few questions, but once I started, I couldn't stop.

Here's a concatenated version of my previous post, with the more important questions only, the rest I'll have to figure out/learn for myself.

Again, my intended setup:

Head Unit:
Sony CDX-M8805X Info

Speakers:
Front - Infinity Kappa 60.5CS Info
Back - Infinity Kappa 572.5CF Info

The questions:

1) If I fashion my own 5x7 to 6.5 adapters for the front door, will the speakers still fit in the door? What should I use to make the adapter?

2) What kind of connection is used to plug the antenna into the HU? Can I make my own extension cable from the antenna to the HU?

3) Where can I find the power antenna control lead to connect to the HU? Does the power antenna have a relay box?

4) What's the deal with 2-ways vs. 3-ways? Which are better? Will 2-ways have just as much frequency response as 3-ways, as deep bass and crisp highs?

5) Any other recommendations for speakers, HU? Any opinions on Sony HUs?

To see the installation manual: Manuals. For model, say: CDXM8805X and click on "Documentation".

Again, I want to say how great this forum has been, and I hope to be a valued contributor.

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I'm assuming your reffering to your Gen 3 :)

As far as wiring goes you will need to purchase the wiring kit which bypasses the factory amplifer...these kits usually come with the antenae adapter. They also give you leads for power antenae, remote amp turn on, ect. The wires (theres quiet a bundle) will need to be wired from your dash to your trunk. From personal experience the Sosche kit is the best way to go. I purchased mine on crutchfield Here.

All Infinity speakers sound amazing, you will get more krisp highs and more vocals with the 3 ways, but unless your an audiophile, you may not notice a huge difference. Keep in mind your head unit pushes around 50 watts max per channel...probably 15-20 watts RMS, these speakers can handle 100 Watts RMS, 300 Watts Max....so in order to get the full "oomph" out of them your going to what an amplifier, however you should be able to listen to them just find with the output of your deck.



6" in the 5x7/6x8 hole...I'm unsure on this but I think the max you could go is 5.25" speakers... you can get adapters on crutchfield Here, however make sure the speakers are going to clear the windows in the door (and when checking this, make sure the window is down ;) . I would personally stick with the factory size speaker.

If you have tweeters in your mirror pods, I would consider upgrading them as well, and if you dont I reccomend disconnecting them as in my case caused the stereo to cut out.


As for options/opinions on head units and speakers... Infinity Speakers are the best in my opinion, with Kove next on my list...but good luck finding a set from Kove.... Head units I would lean more towards Clarion.

Shop on ebay for your stereo and speakers! I saved myself at least 300 this way :D
 

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Thanks tmonster for your reply.

I plan on modifying the stereo "oval" myself, instead of getting a kit. I don't really like how they look, and would rather spend the money on the components.

Thanks for the feedback about the Inifinitys - I'm pretty much set on those, I've heard only good things.

It should be possible to put a 6.5" in a 5" x 7" opening - but since I'm getting this stuff on eBay I want to be sure it'll fit the Gen 3 door - so I was wondering if anyone here has done it.

Also, I plan on rewiring the speakers myself from the HU instead of going all the way to the RCU in the back and using the stock wiring. I know it'll take more time, but I'm willing to spend time if it saves me money. Since you have gotten the wiring kit already, could you tell me the colour(s) of the Ford wires for the power antenna, remote amp, and illumination? That would be a HUGE help!

Thanks,

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1) If I fashion my own 5x7 to 6.5 adapters for the front door, will the speakers still fit in the door? What should I use to make the adapter?
Yes they will fit. Wood, ABS, Whatever. (reccomend plexi or abs)

2) What kind of connection is used to plug the antenna into the HU? Can I make my own extension cable from the antenna to the HU?
$30 taurus bypass cable availible from any Circuit city, Best Buy. You Will Also need the $50 Head Unit Dash Kit

3) Where can I find the power antenna control lead to connect to the HU? Does the power antenna have a relay box?
Its included in the above cable. The Cable will have the 4 sets of speaker leads, and the blue power antenna lead.

4) What's the deal with 2-ways vs. 3-ways? Which are better? Will 2-ways have just as much frequency response as 3-ways, as deep bass and crisp highs?
3 Ways are over rated. and decent 2 way will produce the same sound (opinion- i install car audio for a living)

5) Any other recommendations for speakers, HU? Any opinions on Sony HUs?
Alot dont like sony. Personally, i love mine. Easy controls, not over complicated. If you want tonz of audio controls, go Pioneer or Alpine.

Infinity are great speakers, but are more midrange than an alpine or polk speaker. If you want crisp highs and have a sub, go polk/alpine. If you want more mid/bass sound go infinity, but you will loose some highs. Altho any aftermarket speaker will produce 10x more highs than the factory stuff.
 

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Baby SHO,

I've seen many of your posts on this forum, thanks a lot for your help.

Is there a way I can get away with not having to buy a wiring harness/kit? It only looks like there are a few wires that need to be connected, as long as I know what wires, it shouldn't be that difficult, and since I plan on wiring from the HU to the speakers, should n't I only need the antenna, anteanna control, ACC/RUN, Always on, and illumination wires? The antenna, ACC/RUN and always on cables should be easy - where can I find the other ones, or how would I manually wire them.

I haven't taken apart the stereo/rear to have a look at how things are wired, I just want to know if it's possible.

Also, please keep in mind I'm in Canada, no Circuit City, and shipping is pricey, so I want to do as much as I can without having to buy stuff from the US or US sites.

Thanks again for all your help!

lllsynthtaxlll

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Originally posted by lllsynthtaxlll@Sep 6 2004, 11:44 AM

Again, my intended setup:

Head Unit:
Sony CDX-M8805X Info

Speakers:
Front - Infinity Kappa 60.5CS Info
Back - Infinity Kappa 572.5CF  Info
Personally, I'm not a big fan of Sony. I've had good experiences with Alpine and Kenwood, but Pioneer seems to be good too.

Speaker brands are 100% personal opinion - what sounds good to one person may not sound good to another. I think Infinity's Kappa line are good low end speakers. You could do better for what you will pay though...IMO

1) If I fashion my own 5x7 to 6.5 adapters for the front door, will the speakers still fit in the door? What should I use to make the adapter?
Chances are, you will have to make one yourself, I would use MDF - cheap and easy to find. Very stiff too.
2) What kind of connection is used to plug the antenna into the HU? Can I make my own extension cable from the antenna to the HU?
You are going to make a lot of work for yourself by not buying a kit; however, you can buy an extension cable and a Ford adapter cable and you should be good to go. Should be around $20-$30.
3) Where can I find the power antenna control lead to connect to the HU? Does the power antenna have a relay box?
The head unit will have an output for this, just run a wire connected to it to your amp.
4) What's the deal with 2-ways vs. 3-ways? Which are better? Will 2-ways have just as much frequency response as 3-ways, as deep bass and crisp highs?
I'm assuming you're refering to coaxial speakers...again, up to you. I think most 3-ways are a waste of money.
5) Any other recommendations for speakers, HU? Any opinions on Sony HUs?
Some opinions are found above. If you want a set of comps that will blow away those infinity's, I would get some CDT CL-61's.
 

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I always prefered the high's out of the infinity's more than the polks, they seem less "fake" (my opinion) However the Alpine speakers are nice indeed. I've never heard CDT's, but have heard of them and nothing bad about them either. I would go with mine and Baby Sho's advice on getting the kit though, by the time you pay for wires, bus connectors, solder, wood, clips, screws, fuses, and a button for your defrost. and still having to pay for the $30 antenae wire (there is not antenae wire behind the radio, it is integrated into a harness, and is insulated...you cut it or tap into it, you reception will be piss poor..i tried it) You might as well just spend the 50 or 60 on a kit. However I will try to find the wire codes for you...but I'm not promising anything... and if you do manage to make a oval for your dash...let me know how you did it, because I'm looking to do an in dash pc soon....
 

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As I said in your last post, I have 4 Infinity Kappa 5x7's, and they sound amazing. I recently just put in a 4 channel amplifier to drive them, and the sound is crystal clear. You won't be disappointed with the Kappas.

As for the headunit, I personally wouldn't recommend Sony. Some people I went to high school with had issues with Sony headunits (stopped working after about a year, disc stuck in player, etc.). The Sony units are also expensive for what you're getting. If you want great value out of a headunit, I would recommend Pioneer. I have Pioneer decks in both of my cars, and I love them. Great amount of features to fine tune your system without buying a separate equalizer. Take a look at some of the Pioneer models before you dedicate yourself to Sony.

In all honesty, I think you would be better off buying the complete install kit. It will save you so much time and frustration, and it comes with everything you need in one kit. But if you really want to try fabricating your own in-dash piece, I strongly recommend that you try and find one from a salvage yard to practice on, if not just use that one for construction, just in case something would go wrong when you're fabbing the stock one.

One more thing. Your best bet for prices on all the equipment is eBay. Keep us updated. Good luck.
 

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Thanks for all your replies.

I do have one more question: Where should I mount/put the crossovers? I've heard it's not a good idea to put them in the door, and I can't seem to find a good place to put them. If they aren't in the door, then that's more wires I have to run into the door (2 for woofer, 2 for tweeter). What are your opinions on that?

Also, I don't see how it will cost that much to make my own stuff. I already have everything I would need to do the wiring (assorted wires, soldering kit, any clamps/holders I might need) and lots of leftovers from my previous projects that I could use as a mount for the HU. Also, why would I need to buy a button for the defrost? I plan on using the stock one in the oval, along with the stock climate controls, just filling, sanding and painting the top portion myself and cutting a hole for the HU.

I look forward to the challenge, and will definitely keep you posted and do a write up with pics.

I've heard more bad then good about Sony, so even though that unit would look awesome with its all black on the oval, I'm gonna start looking into Pioneer, because I've heard ONLY good things. I know Alpine and Clarion are good too, but they have so really ugly units. I'm sorry, I'm like that, aesthetics are important to me.

Also, I've heard ONLY good things about the Kappas and CDTs, so when I get some time, I'll visit a few large audio stores in T.O. (ie: Toronto) and give a good listen to both, and compare prices on eBay.

It'll be probably another month before I begin modifying the oval, but as soon as I do, I'll let you all know how it's going. I have to do lots of mock-ups on the computer to see what way looks best, and I might have a few other ideas as well. I've never much been one for "stock", and I think if one could find a way to gut that Oval completely and move the climate controls somewhere else (with some extensions, that should be doable) a screen would look AWESOME!

Again, anyone have any opinions on what to do with the crossovers?

Thanks,

lllsynthtaxlll
 

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good luck with the massive wire mess....

as for crossovers, I would mount them in the trunk if I used the wiring kit, specially if they are adjustable...

If you have a center councle....you could mount them in there somewhere, My friend put his under his seats..... for the rear speakers just mount them in the trunk sumwhere...

Remember my advice about stock tweeters tho :)
 

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tmonster,

Definately, I would be getting components for the front to replace the tweeters.

And I guess I'll probably mount them under the seats, or find somewhere tucked away in the center - but it would be cool if they were visible.

Thanks for all your help.

lllsynthtaxlll
 
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