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No, sorry, I havnt done any serious engine mods. But I am curious, without forced induction, is the only way to get serious power from morana, is there some other company? By serious, I dont mean, new headers, intake, and exhaust. :rice:
 

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well what do u mean then? there are lots of mods and intake and exhaust should be the first to do IMO, chip, ram air maybe? vak? udp? lots of options.....I dont know ask around lots of guys that mod their taurii
 

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ahhh a few other things u can do is go to ghost perf and get ported uper and lower manifolds along with their ported heads.......prices are good too!!!!!!
 

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Morana isn't really used all that much for Taurus parts. There are a few people who have gotten the roller rockers, IIRC. The problem is, they require head machining, so many people just back out of the notion of getting them, unless they are getting other head work done (i.e. bigger valves, porting, etc.)

Basically, I think what you are asking about is stuff other than the "remove intake silencer" and cat-back exhaust, but not as extreme as nitrous or a blower. Which would leave porting and polishing the intake manifold or runners, performance chips, tranny work, etc.

Here is my basic synopsis:
Intake - P&P intake manifold/runners, big bore butterflies on Duratec/SHO motors, bigger TB, water/alcohol injection, P&P lower intake manifold, bigger MAF, P&P heads for better flow, bigger valves, higher ratio roller-tip rockers, bigger/more aggressive cam

Exhaust - well, apparently you don't want this info, since it's been covered to death.

Other engine work - Piston swap and/or head work for higher compression, bore & stroke (not necessarily easy to do on most models), balance internals

Ignition - not much to do here... bigger coil (negligible gains), better wires (negligible gains)... nothing is really better than a good tune-up, until you start building a race motor, in which case you would scrap the whole stock ignition system and run a Mallory or something. A chip can help with timing advance w/o any other mods. Older engines allow manual timing advance.

Trans - Shift kit, performance chip, Quaife (basically a limited slip diff.), upgraded TC (higher stall rpm), numerous other little goodies I know little about like extra clutches(?)

Other - VAK or UDPs or both to cut parasitic loss from engine-driven accessories
 

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Yea, I knew about the P+P, I guess what I was asking was, is there other companies that make engine performance parts for the 3.0L Vulcan. And are there any upgrades that I dont know about. Sorry, I wasnt specific.
 

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Originally posted by SixFoFalcon@Jan 13 2004, 03:13 PM
Morana isn't really used all that much for Taurus parts. There are a few people who have gotten the roller rockers, IIRC. The problem is, they require head machining, so many people just back out of the notion of getting them, unless they are getting other head work done (i.e. bigger valves, porting, etc.)

Basically, I think what you are asking about is stuff other than the "remove intake silencer" and cat-back exhaust, but not as extreme as nitrous or a blower. Which would leave porting and polishing the intake manifold or runners, performance chips, tranny work, etc.

Here is my basic synopsis:
Intake - P&P intake manifold/runners, big bore butterflies on Duratec/SHO motors, bigger TB, water/alcohol injection, P&P lower intake manifold, bigger MAF, P&P heads for better flow, bigger valves, higher ratio roller-tip rockers, bigger/more aggressive cam

Exhaust - well, apparently you don't want this info, since it's been covered to death.

Other engine work - Piston swap and/or head work for higher compression, bore & stroke (not necessarily easy to do on most models), balance internals

Ignition - not much to do here... bigger coil (negligible gains), better wires (negligible gains)... nothing is really better than a good tune-up, until you start building a race motor, in which case you would scrap the whole stock ignition system and run a Mallory or something. A chip can help with timing advance w/o any other mods. Older engines allow manual timing advance.

Trans - Shift kit, performance chip, Quaife (basically a limited slip diff.), upgraded TC (higher stall rpm), numerous other little goodies I know little about like extra clutches(?)

Other - VAK or UDPs or both to cut parasitic loss from engine-driven accessories
the quaife is only for the mtx's, so on a regular taurus that is not an option.
 

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I thought Carter (ArkanSHO) had a LSD on his ATX. Now I am sad
I guess I'll have to see if Brad at SHOFast wants to build one from scratch for me.

*edit* Must have had Carter's SHO confused with some MTXer.
 
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Originally posted by SixFoFalcon@Jan 14 2004, 08:31 AM
I thought Carter (ArkanSHO) had a LSD on his ATX. Now I am sad
I guess I'll have to see if Brad at SHOFast wants to build one from scratch for me.

*edit* Must have had Carter's SHO confused with some MTXer.
Carter has an LSD. Not sure where he got it, but SHOFast would be a good guess.
 

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Originally posted by Bob Gervais+Jan 14 2004, 10:33 AM-->QUOTE (Bob Gervais @ Jan 14 2004, 10:33 AM)
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@Jan 14 2004, 08:31 AM
I thought Carter (ArkanSHO) had a LSD on his ATX.  Now I am sad
  I guess I'll have to see if Brad at SHOFast wants to build one from scratch for me. 

*edit* Must have had Carter's SHO confused with some MTXer.
Carter has an LSD. Not sure where he got it, but SHOFast would be a good guess.[/b]
A-HA!
I've been budgeting for a new ATX, and I always had the vision that I would have it built up the same way Carter's was, with an LSD, high-stall converter, etc. I'm almost positive Brad did the work for him. I remember him (Carter) mentioning it a few times on the V8SHO list.
 
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IIRC, Carter and Brad have worked together on a lot of things on that car. Wasn't Carter on staff there at one point?
 

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Originally posted by Bob Gervais@Jan 14 2004, 11:48 AM
IIRC, Carter and Brad have worked together on a lot of things on that car. Wasn't Carter on staff there at one point?
Rest assured I will get to the bottom of this!
 

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I just spoke to Brad at SHOFAST. They offer Limited Slip Differentials for an additional $695 (when you get a rebuild there.) So, I think I know where to go for a tranny rebuild, whenever my AX4N finally quits on me.
 

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Originally posted by SixFoFalcon@Jan 19 2004, 04:20 PM
I just spoke to Brad at SHOFAST. They offer Limited Slip Differentials for an additional $695 (when you get a rebuild there.) So, I think I know where to go for a tranny rebuild, whenever my AX4N finally quits on me.
$695 for a LSD eh. I think someone is on LSD. I may be mistaken but I think I read a thread somewhere about locking up the dif and calling it a LSD. But I guess they could have found on that works.
 

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Originally posted by Patrick Norris+Jan 19 2004, 05:55 PM-->QUOTE (Patrick Norris @ Jan 19 2004, 05:55 PM)
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I just spoke to Brad at SHOFAST.  They offer Limited Slip Differentials for an additional $695 (when you get a rebuild there.)  So, I think I know where to go for a tranny rebuild, whenever my AX4N finally quits on me. 
$695 for a LSD eh. I think someone is on LSD. I may be mistaken but I think I read a thread somewhere about locking up the dif and calling it a LSD. But I guess they could have found on that works. [/b]
Nope, "locking up" or welding the differential on a FRD would just about render your steering wheel impossible to use. The welding will cause both wheels regardless of load to spin at the same rate. I could see a lot of broken fingers on that persons car.
$695 isn't to shabby I thought considering the last LSD I had bought for a FWD cost me in the neighborhood of $1,400 and I had to install it.
 

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Originally posted by SixFoFalcon@Jan 19 2004, 04:20 PM
I just spoke to Brad at SHOFAST. They offer Limited Slip Differentials for an additional $695 (when you get a rebuild there.) So, I think I know where to go for a tranny rebuild, whenever my AX4N finally quits on me.
Hold out... A couple of us vendors are trying to gather interest on a gear driven LSD for the ATX's...
 

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Originally posted by Mikeys_Taurus+Jan 26 2004, 04:06 PM-->QUOTE (Mikeys_Taurus @ Jan 26 2004, 04:06 PM)
<!--QuoteBegin-SixFoFalcon
@Jan 19 2004, 04:20 PM
I just spoke to Brad at SHOFAST.  They offer Limited Slip Differentials for an additional $695 (when you get a rebuild there.)  So, I think I know where to go for a tranny rebuild, whenever my AX4N finally quits on me. 
Hold out... A couple of us vendors are trying to gather interest on a gear driven LSD for the ATX's...
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Well, you just gathered MY interest!
 

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wasnt he asking about s*** for the 3.0 vulcan, i got one and would like to give my bull some balls. and for the love of god, no the damn ornaments
 
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