[MaltaTaurus69]

I was wondering where I can find a Phelonic Spacer for my 1993 Vulcan Engine. Also, what kinda of gains could I expect from such a mod, and for how much??

 

[mikehawk]

I think Bob sells them. They're supposed to keep your UIM cool and also slightly increase the length of your runners.

 

[MaltaTaurus69]

Thanks for the help, I'll have to contact the great Bob.

 

[taurus8916]

yeah bob made mine, havnt installed them yet, but its sweet, I plan on installing it when I get my new ported manifolds, l8er

 

[Bob Gervais]

I have some spacers now for the Vulcan, however they are thicker than the originals I made. At least one install went bad with them, because of the bolts being too short. If you want one of those, you can have it for the price of shipping. Just understand though that you'll need longer bolts for the upper intake, and will most likely have to lenthen your EGR tube.

Once I get fully back on my feet, I plan to get some thinner material and make some more, as well as spacers for the Tec, Essex, and SHO engines. At this point, it's difficult to give a timeline on that though.

 

[taurus8916]

that reminds me bob, will I need longer bolts for my spacer then?

 

[Bob Gervais]

Originally posted by taurus8916@Feb 10 2004, 02:33 PM
that reminds me bob, will I need longer bolts for my spacer then?

Forgot to include that Paul, yours was one of the originals I made, and it's thinner. You won't need new bolts.

 

[MaltaTaurus69]

Alright, I'll hold off until you make the newer ones, just let me know, I'd definitely be interested!

 

[shifty]

Originally posted by MaltaTaurus69@Feb 10 2004, 12:08 PM
Phelonic Spacer , what kinda of gains could I expect from such a mod, and for how much??

well....

 

[silvapain]

I got mine from bob for $40 I think, and the gains are decent. The spacer is more for keeping the charge cool for other mods I plan on making, then for gains on it's own. For a '93 intake, I would SRIOUSLY look into getting a new EGR tube when putting in a spacer, mine snappedd when re-installing.

 

[shoz123]

Sure would be nice to have some for the V8....

 

[1fast97]

Originally posted by SHOZ123@Feb 11 2004, 04:23 PM
Sure would be nice to have some for the V8....

Yeah, I'd love one for the V8 too. Not too thick though.

 

[Bob Gervais]

I'm looking into material thickness and properties now. I'd like to make them as thin as possible, while retaining the insulating capability. I already have intake gaskets for: Vulcan, Essex, Duratec, and the V8. As soon as I do the 60k (or 120k

) on my 91, I'll have a V6 SHO intake gasket set, all to use for templates. You'll all be kept in mind, and hell, for those who race their cars, I'd be willing to offer them for free, to find out if it makes a difference or not.

 

[SableOHC]

So are these spacers significantly thicker than the gaskets on the Duratec. I was surprised at how thick those plastic gaskets between UIM and LIM and heads were when I was installing them.

 

[shoz123]

Originally posted by Bob Gervais@Feb 11 2004, 07:45 PM
I'm looking into material thickness and properties now.  I'd like to make them as thin as possible, while retaining the insulating capability..............  You'll all be kept in mind, and hell, for those who race their cars, I'd be willing to offer them for free, to find out if it makes a difference or not. 

:spinningsmiley:

 

[SableOHC]

Sorry, my question wasn't explict

What I meant is, the stock gasket already seems like it is an insulative spacer. What is the advantage of having a piece of phenolic instead of a thick plastic gasket.

 

[Bob Gervais]

Originally posted by SableOHC@Feb 11 2004, 11:00 PM

Sorry, my question wasn't explict

What I meant is, the stock gasket already seems like it is an insulative spacer. What is the advantage of having a piece of phenolic instead of a thick plastic gasket.

Either I have the wrong Duratec gasket, or there's different ones. The one I have looks like a normal gasket for an upper intake.

 

[shoz123]

My gaskets are the normal painted steel. I would like some at least 1/4" thick. What thickness do you usually make them Bob?

 

[Bob Gervais]

Originally posted by SHOZ123@Feb 12 2004, 01:14 AM
My gaskets are the normal painted steel. I would like some at least 1/4" thick. What thickness do you usually make them Bob?

The first Vulcan spacers were 3/8", and worked out pretty well. Then I made some 1/2", which as I posted above, are too thick. I was thinking 1/4" also, just need to make sure it has enough insulating properties to make it worthwhile.

 

[SHOoff]

Bob,
For the V-6 SHO spacer, customers will need to have there runners shaved whatever the thickness of your spacers will be (I think 3/8 would be perfect) because of hood clerence issues.
Just some helpful info.