[bskouby]

Sorry for the quality of the pics, I had to use my old 35mm camera. This was a fun day.

Engine minus the upper intake, throttle body and air intake.

Intake and other various parts off engine

Flipping "fuel rail/manifold" out of the way.

Follow red line to where the PCV valve is hiding. Behind the radiator hose, below the bundle of wires (square black bundle running between intake ports).

It is blurry, but you can see the color of the gunk under the oil cap that the busted PCV valve caused.

 

[bskouby]

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[bskouby]

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[eCarâ„¢]

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[D Man]

Is your car a 2000. I was at a meet sometime ago and, the a question came up about if the 2000 only model had seconderies. I remember Kirk and Bob talking about how only the 2000 year model was the only the only year the Duratec Taurus had a coil on plug desgin. And that's what I see hear. But I don't see how their could be seconderis in the LIM. Since all I see is one huge hole for each cyclinder. Did you notice any butterflies in the LIM??

 

[Damon]

Damn man, time to change that air filter!

-Damon

 

[bskouby]

Originally posted by eCarâ„¢@Dec 7 2003, 08:44 AM
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Don't you always have a hammer present when you work on your car?

Anyhow...I used it to break the EGR valve loose from the mount. It also comes in handy for breaking the intakes gaskets loose (I used the rubber handle end to tap with).

 

[bskouby]

Originally posted by duratecchie@Dec 8 2003, 01:11 AM
Damn man, time to change that air filter!

-Damon

Yup. New one now resides in there. That was the first time I ever looked at the filter. I assumed (wrong) when I bought the car it had a new air filter in it. Guess I should have looked when they gave it to me with coal black oil.

 

[bskouby]

Originally posted by D Man@Dec 7 2003, 11:24 AM
Is your car a 2000.  I was at a meet sometime ago and, the a question came up about if the 2000 only model had seconderies.  I remember Kirk and Bob talking about how only the 2000 year model was the only the only year the Duratec Taurus had a coil on plug desgin.  And that's what I see hear.  But I don't see how their could be seconderis in the LIM.  Since all I see is one huge hole for each cyclinder.  Did you notice any butterflies in the LIM??

Nope, no secondaries in the LIM. You can also tell from this pic that control module for the secondaries that the Gen 3's have it missing as well. It is the consensus of many here that the G4's didn't have "secondaries" per say, they have some sort of dual runner setup like the 3.8L and 4.2L SPI engines do.

But...it still acts as if is has secondaries, when you hit 3500 it screams all the way to redline.

Personally, I am glad I don't have them, one less moving part to carbon up and worry about.

As for the COP igintion, as far as I know 2000 was the only year for it. Now....from what I could tell, ALL G4's are missing the "secondaries" that the G3's had. Now...if I am wrong, let me know.

 

[taurusSVT]

Thanks for the pics! Really helped in locating the darn thing. THey know how to bury parts on these engines. And yes the hammer is the universal tool for working on cars lol!

 

[green amazon taurus]

DDDDDDamn thats a filter, may want to check the cabin filter also.

 

[thsncc1701]

I have a 93 GL 3.0L with almost 44k miles should I replace the pcv?

 

[topgunovrtx]

Sorry for the quality of the pics, I had to use my old 35mm camera. This was a fun day.

Engine minus the upper intake, throttle body and air intake.

[ img]http://mypage.siu.edu/bskouby/Sable/PCV/engine2.jpg[/img]

Intake and other various parts off engine

[i mg]http://mypage.siu.edu/bskouby/Sable/PCV/intake.jpg[/img]

Flipping "fuel rail/manifold" out of the way.

[im g]http://mypage.siu.edu/bskouby/Sable/PCV/fuel%20rail_manifold.jpg[/img]

[i mg]http://mypage.siu.edu/bskouby/Sable/PCV/engine3.jpg[/img]

[im g]http://mypage.siu.edu/bskouby/Sable/PCV/engine4.jpg[/img]

Follow red line to where the PCV valve is hiding. Behind the radiator hose, below the bundle of wires (square black bundle running between intake ports).

[im g]http://mypage.siu.edu/bskouby/Sable/PCV/engine5_point.jpg[/img]

[im g]http://mypage.siu.edu/bskouby/Sable/PCV/engine6.jpg[/img]

It is blurry, but you can see the color of the gunk under the oil cap that the busted PCV valve caused.

[im g]http://mypage.siu.edu/bskouby/Sable/PCV/oil_cap_gunk.jpg[/img]
[/b]

Yes, the proper PCV Valve for the 2000 Taurus, with 3.0L Duratec engine, is Motorcraft Part No. EV-243. The correct PCV Valve Hose Emission Separator is Motorcraft KCV-116, not KCV-117 (as indicated online in the Motorcraft Full Line Catalog, RockAuto.com, and many online part sites). This can be confirmed at your local Ford dealer parts department.

 

[ford_ses]

Originally posted by D Man@Dec 7 2003, 11:24 AM
Is your car a 2000.  I was at a meet sometime ago and, the a question came up about if the 2000 only model had seconderies.  I remember Kirk and Bob talking about how only the 2000 year model was the only the only year the Duratec Taurus had a coil on plug desgin.  And that's what I see hear.  But I don't see how their could be seconderis in the LIM.  Since all I see is one huge hole for each cyclinder.  Did you notice any butterflies in the LIM??

Nope, no secondaries in the LIM. You can also tell from this pic that control module for the secondaries that the Gen 3's have it missing as well. It is the consensus of many here that the G4's didn't have "secondaries" per say, they have some sort of dual runner setup like the 3.8L and 4.2L SPI engines do.

But...it still acts as if is has secondaries, when you hit 3500 it screams all the way to redline.

Personally, I am glad I don't have them, one less moving part to carbon up and worry about.

As for the COP igintion, as far as I know 2000 was the only year for it. Now....from what I could tell, ALL G4's are missing the "secondaries" that the G3's had. Now...if I am wrong, let me know.
[/b]

Correct, all G4 Duratecs are oval port and don't have secondaries. '96-''99 have them, 2000-'05 do not.

The 2000 isn't the only year to use coil on plug ignition - the last version of the Duratec in the G4 Taurus in '04-'05 had it as well. '96-'99 and '01-'03 have coil packs instead.

 

[firespirit]

I love 5 year old threads!

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