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I have yet another question. What is a normal oil consumption
on a 02 taurus with 35000 and the 24 dohc. The problem is i'm using about quart and half between 3000 mile oil change. The latest is had a oil change and a week and half later down a quart. My dealer's response is thats normal or perhaps
our tech's did not fill it correctly...... I have a explorer with 75g and never loses any oil at all, the dealer inspected for leaks found none only found some oil in PCV
and says that is normal also. I;m now on a oil consumption study, which they fill it and then I go back and they check again.
The only thing I hear is thats normal. BS..
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That doesn't sound normal, I don't think you should be burning any oil <_< Might want to take it to another dealership...


and do it fast! your warranty is gone at 36k - see what you can get the current dealership to do, if you don't get results take it to another one


btw... welcome to the club!
 
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1 quart per 900 miles is spec'ed as normal from ford. I had my 96lx dohc engine repalced by ford esp for drinking 1 quart per 850 miles.
 

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Well the manual for my 12v 3.0 back from 1994(different engine) says its normal for the engine to burn errr... 'consume' 1qt per 1000 miles. Possible their standarts went up to 900 since then... I notice if I use 'high millage' oil it dont do it. I think it has something to do with piston rings and such, so yeah if its a new engine see if you can get the dealer ot fix it.
 

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Originally posted by XLSuruaT@Mar 4 2004, 08:37 PM
1 quart per 900 miles is spec'ed as normal from ford. I had my 96lx dohc engine repalced by ford esp for drinking 1 quart per 850 miles.
I looked acceptable oil consumption a while back and I was surprised at those figures being normal also. I am surprised you got an engine out of Ford! Did they offer a rebuild first?
I have noticed that I have gotten only 5 quarts of oil replaced in my duratec a couple of times so the tech putting in a quart less is not out of the realm of possibility. Hopefully its a mistake like that.
 

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I don't think you will ever get any action from Ford or anyone for using 1 quart every 3000 miles. My parents owned a Grand Marquis a few years back and it used about a quart between changes when it was new. It still used about a quart between changes when it had over 100000 miles on it. It ran great and never caused problems.
 
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Originally posted by Kermitec@Mar 4 2004, 11:24 PM
I looked acceptable oil consumption a while back and I was surprised at those figures being normal also. I am surprised you got an engine out of Ford! Did they offer a rebuild first?
I have noticed that I have gotten only 5 quarts of oil replaced in my duratec a couple of times so the tech putting in a quart less is not out of the realm of possibility. Hopefully its a mistake like that.
I think that number is pretty close to what other manufactures spec. My engine also had a few other problems, it was making some rattling noise and a squeal. The crank pulley was later replaced which took care of the squeal. For the rattleing noise, the dealer just dismissed it as normal. I even have an invoice which says customer states noise from engine, checked out and is running normally
But I kept going back to the same dealer month after month when my oil got low. They kept marking the dip stick, putting all sorts of paints on the oil drain plug so that they know im not messing with it. Eventually after 7 months they got esp to inspect the car and they put a rebuilt block in the car, swapping over EVERYTHING which is not considered part of the long block
Two months later, I found a tsb which states that early duratecs had oil consumption problems, squealing from the crank pully and some other symtom and ford would replace them.
 

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On my 00' tech' I never consumed any oil, even at 43,000 miles when I traded it in. I don't know yet on my 03' since I just did my second oil change at 5,500 miles. So far so good. It sounds to me that something isn't right in your engined. Does the dealer do compresion test and stuff or do they just add more oil and say it's normal?
 
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Originally posted by sfblacksel@Mar 5 2004, 07:01 PM
Does the dealer do compresion test and stuff or do they just add more oil and say it's normal?
Dealer refused to do a compression or a leak down test. They were just being a$#s about it.
 

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Dealer just adds oil and says it's normal. As a no nothing
about cars but should a pcv valve have oil in it? It really doesn't look
good down the road for me to keep this car. btw Car is going in saturday morning
for a tie rod, i don't know if dealer will look at the dip stick then or not but
will post.
thanks in advance for the car experts
 

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sorry haven't got back sooner but, the dealer did check oil after
replacing both tie rods and hence being forced to do a ailgnment. after 200 miles
the oil dropped about a quarter of a quart. a friend of mine also took a look at the pcv valve and noticed the bottom of valve is covered with oil and the top neck you
can actually swirl the oil around that sits inside. is this normal. sorry for the
question not a car guy, social worker instead..lol
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I would replace the pcv valve. Its a $5 part. It may be covered under dealer warranty, but you would have to check on that. Dont pay the dealer to replace it as they will charge your 2 hours of labor for a 10 minute job.

If oil consumption still persists, tell the dealer to perform an oil consumption test. They will fill the car up, mark the dip stick, then tell you to come back when it gets low. Make sure to get every single thing they do in writing printed out as a service invoice. Also, make sure that the service manager knows about your problems and perferably make sure that he is the main guy involved because the other guys can't do crap and you will probably need to go to him if there ends up being a problem. Took me 5 months to realize the other regular peons were giving me b$, i went to the service manager, and he was like, I Cannot understand what these guys did from all the chicken scratch and misprinted invoices, so I ended up having to start my consumption test all over again.
 
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