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Radiator cracked, transmission EPC solenoid intermittenly cutting in and out (in cold weather), idles rough as heck when at a light, keyless entry shot, paint peeling like there is no tomorrow. And this thing has NO room in the backseat.

I don't know if it is cause I drive day to day in a 99 Buick Lesabre or what.

My wife will soon be driving, and i will let her drive the bull. It runs, but it is getting to where i wonder how many times I will have to go get her cause the stupid bull took another dump. I would LIKE to get her into a Buick, cause I hate to say, but they are just so much nicer.

Honestly, are these things SUPPOSE to have a 100K miles lifespan? when it had 58K miles, it was perfect.
 

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My Grandfather has a 92 Taurus Station Wagon (I think GL) it has 185k and the only thing to go wrong is the water pump. So Tauruses can go for a while.
 

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Why send your wife out in the car thats falling apart? You should let her drive the Buick. Not cool for a woman to break down in the middle of no where alone. :blink:

Honestly...my 92 Taurus L had 172K on it and all it did was leak power steering fluid. No other problems. Transmission shifted really smooth. My current Taurus is over 100k and it runs fine...transmission died on it though. I have owned 6 Tauri and the one I have now was the first to have a major problem. (the tranny) If you think Buicks are better then by all means go buy one! Get what you feel comfortable in.

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Sorry for the long rant...

Mine's really beginning to pi$$ me off too. I take great care of this thing and it still wants to crap on me. My idler and tensioner are starting to act up now. I'm getting the "squeak...squeak...squeak...squeak" now and I popped the hood and the tensioner is bouncing all over the place. The bearings are starting to sound bad on the idler too. I get this funny sound from the trans at around 1700 RPM that sounds like a shield rattle, but I know it's not. It's been doing that since it had 40,000 miles but it's getting worse. It does it at idle now when it's cold. It's still shifting fine and all. I am also getting what sounds like some trans pump noise when it's hot, it sounds like a noisy power steering pump, but it's not as bad and it's not the power steering. It's got this funny little shake at idle when I'm in gear at a light or stuck in traffic and it gets worse the longer I sit with my foot on the brake. It feels like a small mis-fire and new plugs didn't fix it. I heard that I should think about changing my water pump a few weeks ago too. The alternator whine on AM stations is getting unbearable, but sometimes it goes away. When I plug in my Nextel charger in the secondary power outlet, it goes away some (figure that one out).

There are countless other things that have gone wrong over the last few weeks and I just don't have the money to keep dumping into this thing. It only has 75,000 miles, what is this thing going to be like as I get closer to 100,000? I still have 3 years of payments left on this thing. My buddy is trying to get rid of his Neon to take over payments on this and I can finally get my Saturn to toy around with. At least with that thing gas is cheaper, I can get parts cheap, and will still have money to beef it up. I don't care if it's smaller, louder, not as smooth, etc. At least I know it will run forever, I won't have to worry about this POS autotragic trans, and I can do more to it. My sister-in-law has a 95' Satty she bought new and it now has 110,000 miles and has never had to do anything major to it. My Taurus has 75,000 and I'm starting to feel like it's going to need a ground up rebuild before 110,000 miles. My Contour was the same way. 107,000 miles and all hell broke loose. My Escort also started acting up at 107,000 miles.

Sorry guys, but over the last couple of weeks, I have completely lost faith in my Taurus. I have been a Taurus lover for years, but after the problems my parents had with their 93' SHO (which I thought they had a lemon) and now mine is suddenly getting all of these problems, I will just be glad to get rid of it. And from the sounds of it, I'm not the first to experience this. It sounds like I am part of the masses that are starting to have issues with their Bulls, not the few that never have issues. I am starting to think I was wrong about that guy with the bitchy website...Maybe he had a good point.
 
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Originally posted by XLSuruaT@Jul 7 2004, 08:01 PM
buy a maxima...you will be much happier :banana:
i drove a 3.5 altima today, I'm in love. If i ever buy another car it'll be a nissan
 

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I cannot do foreign.

yeah I know, all these USA cars built overseas, but still...

Why send her out in the taurus? Cause she will prolly end up wrecking anyways, and would rather have the bull crashed than my buick. :huh:
 

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The Taurus is built in Chicago and Atlanta :)
 
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mine has the sticker on the passeger side window all the way in the back, the little tiny window! it says CHICAGO on it! sorry for the random post
 

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Hmmmm...

Y'know, when I got the '93, it had around 68,000 miles on it.

After 10,000 miles on it, a whole sh!tload of sh!t went wrong with it. Radiator had a pinhole leak that was unnoticable at first but got bigger by the day, and it took the idler pulley, water pump, and serpentine with it. Left a nasty-ass scar on the hood blanket when the belt let go. The left rear drum lost it's parking brake spring inside the drum and LOCKED the wheel up, scored the drum, punctured the wheel cylinder, and generally ruined my night. I had two cracked rear-coils. Finally, the tie-rod ends were worn-out and made a creaking mess.

But, after I cleaned all this up, I went to almost 110,000 with no problems.
Now i'm at 114,000, and after a scare by the tranny (imagine that! :???: ) I have a fuel pump that needs redone and a bad EGR. The body rattles. This is quite acceptable at this mileage. The body has some rot now, but keep in mind this is a winter car as well.

Overall, I put probably $1500 into a $3000, 11-year old car over the course of 3 years and 46,000+ miles. She still gets over 29 mpg on the highway. I've invested additional funds to make it a more stylish, comfortable, and enthusiastic car to drive.

Damn thing still starts every morning and only stranded me once, when my negligence led to a blow water pump. I'd say she's served me pretty well. :thumb:
 

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I can see how you can get upset about car issues. My 1992 Taurus was a mess when I got rid of it. But its all up to you how much you want to put into the car. I traded my Taurus in after it got out of hand.

Running to the jap cars are not the answer though. You got an old car, that needs lots of work. Sure, some old cars are better then others but I am sick of people moaning about how screwed up their car is. Some of it is maintence issues that you may get on any car.

NateNBeckie, you got a 1999 which is newer then my car. Its still worth something so if you don't want to maintain the car, get rid of it or fix it! Maybe you can do what Detroit Raver did and just give it back to the dealer for them to pay off.

Sorry guys, my vote is to do the repairs and continue to enjoy your bull,
 

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Yes, I know that any car will need maintenance, which I am perfectly fine with. The problem is when I get a car that had 36,000 miles when I bought it, and I have taken absoultly perfect care of since then, and now I have 75,000 miles and everything that can possibly go wrong with it is starting to go wrong, that to me isn't normal maintenance. That is a car that is beginning to be a pain in my arse. The reason some of us start to bitch about these things is because we shouldn't be replacing tranny's at 70,000 miles and we shouldn't be replacing other things that should far outlive the Ford 100,000 mile maintenance schedule for spark plugs.

I put my Contour in in my previous post and stated I had tranny problems at 107,000 miles. Let me explain that. I bought the car with 107,000 miles and about 200 miles later the trans started leaking. This was a trans that NEVER had the fluid or filter changed (I know this from my ex-wife's uncle, who I bought the car from). The first major problem I had with my Escort was at 107,000 miles, and that was the clutch. My Taurus on the other hand is starting to have trans issues and other issues at 75,000 miles. That's not normal and it seems to happen to the masses of Taurus owners, not the minority.

What I am trying to say is that the things that are going bad on this car shouldn't be going bad at 75,000 miles, especially since I take extremely good care of this car. I can't just take it in and get another car. I already have a loan on my 2002 MPV and I am trying to get rid of one of these loans. I can't sell it for what I owe because the Bulls don't hold value for $hit. It's worth $4000 - $4500 and I still owe $7000. So I am stuck with it unless I get someone like my buddy that is in trouble, who can't afford to keep paying $450 a month for his Neon (high interest) and $450 for his Montero, so he will just take over payments.

Sorry for the long and bitchy posts all, I'm just really frustrated at this point and you all are the only people that will understand where I am coming from. I'm sure you all have felt this way about a car at some point in your life. Unfortunately, this is happening to me with my Bull.
 

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No problem, I felt the same way about my 92 Taurus, the diffrence was my car was older and I paid cash. I guess having a payment on top of that is insult to injury.

I stayed with my Bull as long as I could. After my tranny went, after only 2000 miles on my new head gaskets, I gave her up for a whopping $800. The car was TRUE MILES UNKNOWN, since the speedo quit working and I fixed it myself with a police speedo.

Oh well, good luck.
 

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I'm not going to say much of anything after all the grief I received from the diehard ford is great asshat crowd. O.K. I'm sorry, I take that asshat comment back. BUT
My Taurus on the other hand is starting to have trans issues and other issues at 75,000 miles. That's not normal and it seems to happen to the masses of Taurus owners, not the minority.
I wonder if that was the reason I couldnt get an extended warranty for over 70,000 miles. Seriosly. I wanted the 100K warranty when I bought mine,but they would only allow me 70K. Idunno.
 
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Originally posted by snakeeyes@Jul 9 2004, 08:08 PM
I'm not going to say much of anything after all the grief I received from the diehard ford is great asshat crowd. O.K. I'm sorry, I take that asshat comment back. BUT
My Taurus on the other hand is starting to have trans issues and other issues at 75,000 miles. That's not normal and it seems to happen to the masses of Taurus owners, not the minority.
I wonder if that was the reason I couldnt get an extended warranty for over 70,000 miles. Seriosly. I wanted the 100K warranty when I bought mine,but they would only allow me 70K. Idunno.
I'd have to disagree about the majority of Taurii having tranny problems. We are naturally going to get a lot of the people who problems on this site because people search for info about it and we are the best source, so they all come here and post about it. But that just my theory. But, I'm definitely not saying the Taurus has a great tranny either. ;)
 

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Originally posted by jason8225+Jul 10 2004, 11:11 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jason8225 @ Jul 10 2004, 11:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-snakeeyes@Jul 9 2004, 08:08 PM
I'm not going to say much of anything after all the grief I received from the diehard ford is great asshat crowd. O.K. I'm sorry, I take that asshat comment back. BUT
My Taurus on the other hand is starting to have trans issues and other issues at 75,000 miles. That's not normal and it seems to happen to the masses of Taurus owners, not the minority.
I wonder if that was the reason I couldnt get an extended warranty for over 70,000 miles. Seriosly. I wanted the 100K warranty when I bought mine,but they would only allow me 70K. Idunno.
I'd have to disagree about the majority of Taurii having tranny problems. We are naturally going to get a lot of the people who problems on this site because people search for info about it and we are the best source, so they all come here and post about it. But that just my theory. But, I'm definitely not saying the Taurus has a great tranny either. ;) [/b][/quote]
Maybe,but I still dont know why I couldnt get over 70K warrenty. Something I dont know about? I think Ill sell it at 69K. :D
 
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Originally posted by snakeeyes+Jul 10 2004, 03:04 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (snakeeyes @ Jul 10 2004, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 11:11 AM
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@Jul 9 2004, 08:08 PM
I'm not going to say much of anything after all the grief I received from the diehard ford is great asshat crowd. O.K. I'm sorry, I take that asshat comment back. BUT
My Taurus on the other hand is starting to have trans issues and other issues at 75,000 miles. That's not normal and it seems to happen to the masses of Taurus owners, not the minority.
I wonder if that was the reason I couldnt get an extended warranty for over 70,000 miles. Seriosly. I wanted the 100K warranty when I bought mine,but they would only allow me 70K. Idunno.

I'd have to disagree about the majority of Taurii having tranny problems. We are naturally going to get a lot of the people who problems on this site because people search for info about it and we are the best source, so they all come here and post about it. But that just my theory. But, I'm definitely not saying the Taurus has a great tranny either. ;)
Maybe,but I still dont know why I couldnt get over 70K warrenty. Something I dont know about? I think Ill sell it at 69K. :D [/b][/quote]
Not sure. I've never heard of them doing that. :headscratch: You've got a Gen 4 though, so I wouldn't worry about it. ;) :D How many miles were on your car when you got it? Was it a Certified Pre-Owned or not?

I have the 100k mile ESP. B)
 
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