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I have a 2001 Taurus that's been sitting a couple years. I got it running and ran good for about 3 hrs. I would only drive it about 10, 15min turn it off, and drive again in about 45 min.

It started shuddering like it was running on 3 cylinders, then it cut off.
Partial disassembly, I see the injectors are dirty. With the plenum off I see a pool of liquid in parts of the manifold. It smells like fuel, and dark colored. Is this normal?

I've included a pic of injector, plenum, and a pic of the coolant reservoir.
Is the manifold supposed to be "dry" in that area when no fuel is injected? Isn't possible headgasket is blown?

Car did not overheat when I drove it. It tries to start but will not start
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Ok
Thank you. I'll take a look at them.
Also car tries to start but ends up with "poof" noise when let off the atarter
 

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Many auto parts stores don't charge for hooking up a scan tool and giving you the codes. If it shows a code for Crank Sensor, replace it. (car will often sound like it wants to start when the crank sensor is bad.) Or, just buy a cheapo scan tool.
What's the car's history? Miles?
Do all the easy, cheap stuff first: check air cleaner, plugs, pull off the coil pack and inspect for cracks.
To test fuel system pour a small amount of fuel down the intake, hit starter, if it runs for a few sec and dies you've got a fuel problem, if it still don't run you gotta elec prob.
 

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Fuel could also be contaminated from sitting a long time
You just gotta go down the list and eliminate things one at a time....
Do you know why the car was 'sitting for a long time'.....?
 

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Car has 130k miles. I've tested crankshaft sensor and it works. New fuel pump, filter.
Was sitting a couple years. It would start with start fluid, but now doesnt
 

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Fuel could also be contaminated from sitting a long time
You just gotta go down the list and eliminate things one at a time....
Do you know why the car was 'sitting for a long time'.....?
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Car belonged to a friend. They stopped driving it when they got new cars.

I changed the fuel and put in fresh fuel. It started acting up after I went to gas station and added more fuel.

I still need to check the spark plugs
 

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Car belonged to a friend. They stopped driving it when they got new cars.

I changed the fuel and put in fresh fuel. It started acting up after I went to gas station and added more fuel.

I still need to check the spark plugs
 

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You make it sound like you disturbed the sludge in the bottom of the fuel tank and filled the new filter up. I would double check fuel pressure.
 

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I did go back and drain all fuel and clean out tank and put in new filter.
This is what the 6 plugs look like
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pretty grainy picture but it looks black soot. is your check engine light on and did you get the trouble codes checked when you had it out? something may be causing it to run too rich and if so your cats will be cooked very soon if not already.
 

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Do all the plugs look like that or just that one? Anyway, that plug looks fouled, either too much fuel or oil. If you know someone with a bead blaster, you can blast and clean them , and if you know someone with a plug tester you can also test them under pressure (saves a lot of money compared to buying new plugs all the time!). Clean thoroughly after blasting, put anti-seize on the threads before installing.
A sticking injector (s) could be the problem. Pulling them out and cleaning/testing them might be a good idea (see YouTube). Also won't cost anything. Maybe an injector, or two, got gummed up from sitting....
I bet it'll run with new/clean plugs, and if it does get it out on the highway and blow the cobwebs out of it - pedal to the metal.
 

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I havent seen plugs that nasty in a long long time. First thing I would do is replace the plugs and see if it will start / run. Maybe replace the plug wires with the correct Motorcraft replacements if they look iffy. Also remove the coil pack and inspect it for cracks. Any crack, even if small, especially on the bottom, replace the coil pack with Motorcraft or BWD only.... no cheap junk parts from the discount parts store.
 
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Thanks for your tips
I did clean the plugs and it started, bit ran roughly like before- shaking and shuddering for 5 min, and it cut off, even with gas pedal lightly depressed. It will start again after 3,4 tries and run for about 30 S.
Interesting you press pedal, and it responds, speeds up and cuts back off.
 

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Do all the plugs look like that or just that one? Anyway, that plug looks fouled, either too much fuel or oil. If you know someone with a bead blaster, you can blast and clean them , and if you know someone with a plug tester you can also test them under pressure (saves a lot of money compared to buying new plugs all the time!). Clean thoroughly after blasting, put anti-seize on the threads before installing.
A sticking injector (s) could be the problem. Pulling them out and cleaning/testing them might be a good idea (see YouTube). Also won't cost anything. Maybe an injector, or two, got gummed up from sitting....
I bet it'll run with new/clean plugs, and if it does get it out on the highway and blow the cobwebs out of it - pedal to the metal.
I did take out all 6 injectors and clean the nipple area. I need to have them cleaned or replaced.
 

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did take out all 6 injectors and clean the nipple area. I need to have them cleaned or replaced.
I was hoping to use it to run a few miles in this country town a few weeks before I had to spend lot of money.
 

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Do all the plugs look like that or just that one? Anyway, that plug looks fouled, either too much fuel or oil. If you know someone with a bead blaster, you can blast and clean them , and if you know someone with a plug tester you can also test them under pressure (saves a lot of money compared to buying new plugs all the time!). Clean thoroughly after blasting, put anti-seize on the threads before installing.
A sticking injector (s) could be the problem. Pulling them out and cleaning/testing them might be a good idea (see YouTube). Also won't cost anything. Maybe an injector, or two, got gummed up from sitting....
I bet it'll run with new/clean plugs, and if it does get it out on the highway and blow the cobwebs out of it - pedal to the metal.
All 6 plugs looked like that
 

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pretty grainy picture but it looks black soot. is your check engine light on and did you get the trouble codes checked when you had it out? something may be causing it to run too rich and if so your cats will be cooked very soon if not already.
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The check engine light is on after vehicle starts. I have not taken to auto parts store to get codes checked - closest is 8 miles. I haven't driven car 4 miles out, just around block, a mile up and down stretch of highway about 50mph
 
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