[apolinaras]

I love the staggered look on a car. I was thinking about sticking with OEM size 16s in thre front with a rim that has a lip, and just get 2-3 inches wider tire in the back on 16s too with wider lip.
Anyone done anything like that? Who was your source for rims and etc?

 

[Guest]

I personally see no point in doing this. For the reason that...... ITS A FWD VEHICLE!!!! LOL Just my thoughts

 

[Noir04]

Originally posted by SableSal@Apr 17 2004, 04:42 AM
I personally see no point in doing this. For the reason that...... ITS A FWD VEHICLE!!!! LOL Just my thoughts

I agree..

The larger tires are usually to gain better traction on RWD cars. For example, go to a local drag strip, you'll see the point in it.

And if you thought of putting bigger tires on the front, well that would look just stupid.

If you want to go bigger in the back for asthetic value.

You be labeled, forever more...

:rice:

 

[joe5.0]

All thats going to do is induce TONS more understeer, and plus if you ever lower it you'll never be able to fit a wide tire in the rear fenderwell.

 

[ron porter]

I'll be kind, but let's just say that it's a bad idea......

In fact, it "may" even cause you to get an ABS trouble light light.

Eibach springs will give a car the slight rake, but don't do it with tires.

 

[barnz67]

why would it be rice, people do it all the time on the gs300-400's. granted it is a rwd car. I was thinking about doing this I thought it would be hot, but I can't find any staggered rims sizes to fit our cars, plus I was told the rear wheels couldn't be more then 15mm difference or i would get the abs light and abs problems. the suggested i just get bigger/wider tires in the back. what about doing a 17's in the front and 18's in the back or 16's in the front and 17's in the back?

 

[ron porter]

Originally posted by barnz67@Apr 17 2004, 07:40 PM
why would it be rice, people do it all the time on the gs300-400's. granted it is a rwd car. I

Uhh....yes.....BECAUSE THEY ARE RWD!!!!!

Folks put larger wheels/tires on the drive wheels. It is an absolutely ridiculous idea on a FWD car to:

1. Put larger wheels/tires on the front

2. Put larger wheels/tires on the rear to make it "look" like a RWD

Over the years, there have been pictures passed around the Internet entitled things like "Here's Another Dumbass" that shows things like snow tires only on the rear of a FWD car, or a FWD car with the rear-end jacked-up and bigger wheels tires on the back.

In case you haven't gotten the hint from the other responders, this is about the dumbest idea that we have heard in a long time!!!!

If you like that look, sell the Taurus and buy a Mustang, or another RWD car.....

 

[93taurusSX]

Ok, ok, I think we get the general consesus that bigger tires in the rear for a FWD is a bad idea.

Let me put forth another question though; has anyone thought about mounting skinnier tires in the back? I've seen a couple of Japanese race-circuit cars (integra and civic type r's mostly) that actually run something like 16 inch in the front and 15 inch, with skinnier tires in the back. The difference in tire widths aren't that big however - more like 215 fronts and 195 backs...

I think this would aid in relieving some of the inherent understeer in FWD cars since the rears are more apt to give out before the fronts...

 

[Mcgilles]

I wouldn't do it, wouldn't look right, but honestly, if you would like the way it would look, give it a try. don't decide not to do something just because of what other people think of it (unless its about something like it wouldn't work, it would break something, or it woudlnt' be safe, then taking other people's advice is a good idea!) not that I like the look of something like altezzas on a mustang (or any other car for that matter) but it kind of upsets me to see people being jeered and made fun of and being almost forced to take stuff off that they like, just because other people don't like the way it looks.

 

[joe5.0]

Originally posted by 93taurusSX@Apr 17 2004, 09:17 PM
Ok, ok, I think we get the general consesus that bigger tires in the rear for a FWD is a bad idea.

Let me put forth another question though; has anyone thought about mounting skinnier tires in the back? I've seen a couple of Japanese race-circuit cars (integra and civic type r's mostly) that actually run something like 16 inch in the front and 15 inch, with skinnier tires in the back. The difference in tire widths aren't that big however - more like 215 fronts and 195 backs...

I think this would aid in relieving some of the inherent understeer in FWD cars since the rears are more apt to give out before the fronts...

And you think it would be wise to have your rear end break free when you try to corner aggressively? Thats about the worst thing you can do with a fwd car because you cant control the slide with the throttle. Manufacturers design understeer into suspensions to keep you from spinning out and killing yourself. Just get some swaybars, lowering springs/struts, a strut tower brace, and some 17's or 18's with correct sized tires & wheel offset and then see how it feels.

We arent telling you to not do it because we are a-holes and dont want to see anything different. Its because your idea is not very good at all, and what you want to do serves no purpose and will not look good. Everyone knows that the Taurus is fwd, you'll be fooling nobody except yourself.

 

[barnz67]

i think aesthetically it would look nice, i like the look, i won't do it because i want no unnecessary problems out of my car, i just plan on getting some 18's and calling it a day..

 

[apolinaras]

OK, so I go out for a weekend and you kids here turn my thread into a flame fest

There is a reason why I post these kind of threads. Yes, I love the satggered look. My pops had his blown E-class AMG Benz with some nice staggered rimz, they looked to die for (never mind the car had so much god damn torque, winter was no fun).
Anyway, that is why I was thinking that for the bull. I did have a hunch about stability of the car with wider rim in the back and FWD, I am not a dumb a**, but I just had to comfirm my hunch.

----RANT MODE ON-----
Re. rice factor (disclaimer: all I ever owned was 1 Ford, 1 Chevy, 1 Dodges, 1 Jeep, and a Benz, so don't play with Asian product), all I can say, we all need to learn some things from ricers! Those f*****s got their shops, where can you show me a store dedicated to Taurus? They get aftermarket parts so quick into the market, you can get stuff for your car before it even comes out of the factory. s***, we still don't have a decent body kit for GEN4!!!!!!!
They manage to put in AWD into a f-in CIVICS!!!! s***, we can't fit a damn blower into GEN4. I have seen a guy with a f-in Civic that was like 300-400 horses (closer to 400) to the wheels on a dyno. We here can't squeeze out anything decent out of the engines that are twice the size! So stop knocking on the ricers, instead lets go pay couple of them to use their connections and get a body kit (that won't break on the first bump and won't cost a g'damn fortune) for GEN4!
To top it all off, why the hell I could get into every Japanese car in Chicago Autoshow, but f-------------ing Ford had Five Hundred's DOORS LOCKED!?!?! Bill Ford, get your hands out of your ... and put them to work, smack your marketing people like little b**ches until they learn how to market a damn good car.
-------RANT MODE OFF------

Verdict: I am sticking with f-in 16s, OEM size. OK, maybe 225s instead fo 215s.

 

[silvapain]

Originally posted by apolinaras@Apr 18 2004, 07:48 PM
Those f*****s got their shops, where can you show me a store dedicated to Taurus?

Anonda MotorSports. SHOshop. DRAXAS.

 

[Guest]

Well... Lets see here. First off these Japanese guys are pretty lame man, you gotta think about it this way. The more horsepower you get out off the vehicle, te less reliable its going to be. These guys choke the crap out of their 4-bangers to get the amount of horsepower we produce with a 4K-RPM rev. I mean... Dont degrade yourself into being a Body Kit adding--Black Front Rims with stock tires guy who thinks that every little part that they sell at these Automotive Stores works. Come on!

I think it's time for us to show them that we dont need body kits to look cool. I think it's time for us to show em that a Sable (mine) and a Taurus can get hooked up. Can run 13s, can be reliable. I mean.... s***! Im tired of threads that lead to the same thing..... Body Kits, Clear Tails, and Wings.... I left that place cause I saw something better.

I've been into cars that no one would ever think about adding performance parts to. I mean, when's the last time you've seen a sable like mine in your town? A Taurus like yours in my town? We are here to make the (what people think is) unpossible, possible! So lets all get together and do something!

I mean, you want to do the bigger tire size in the rear.... go for it. You know it's not going to do anything. Probably worsen the driving experience, but if it's something that you want to do, go for it. Cant say we didn't warn you. If I were you, I would get the 225/55ZR16s that I have on my car. But whatever floats your boat man... Just take a pic, and lets judge it from there.

Have a great day guys, and I hope I made a difference!
No offence intended.

 

[shoz123]

I ran 225/50s in the front and 225/60s in the rear. About an 1.5" difference in height. Messed the ABS up and didn't help much with oversteer either. Looked good though.

 

[tmonster]

Who cares what other people think, its your ride...make it look the way you want it too. However if its going to create issues with the saftey, and handling of the vehical I wouldnt do it. There is also that slight chance that an insurance company might screw you if your in an accident with different sized tires....just liked they do with lowered suspensions. And if you want my honest opinion, I have at least 5 people a month asking me if Taurus's are rear wheel drive, why not just add to there confusion, granted if the mod works.

 

[apolinaras]

Re. tires. My hunch was as alwasy on the right track. I am not getting killed over the looks of the car. Chicago is bad enough.

----RANT MODE ON-------

I won't get into argument about reliability of Jap cars, BUT I have a 1993 Toyota Corolla sittin in the parking lot of my office, and our office is selling it for $2500 (with 123K miles on it), I will not have a hard time selling it for that. My f-in 2000 Taurus LX is barely worth $6K with 50K on it. Now is that a kick in the balls or is it a kick in the balls. I run the operations for my office and I wish I was not looking out for company interests, I would donate that damn Toyota! But I have to face it that Japs did something right somewhere in there, why would a kid or a parent blow $2500 for such an old car. When have you seen Escort go for $2500?

On the subject of 4 bangers, US needs $6 per galon, like in EU, to learn how to squeeze the holy hell out of the engine. Any EU made car for EU market with 3.0 engine is EXPECTED to run 250 ponies AT LEAST! We here beg for 200 horses, and sometimes we might get lucky!
I was blessed enough to race Italian Delta's and Alpha Romeos, when I was in school in EU, stock 4 banger would have left any stang or bull so far behind in the dust, you would not know what happened to ya, and guess what, I was racing with a car that was 8 years old, so don't tell me you can't squeeze every horse out of the engine and not make it reliable. All I had to do to that Delta is fix broken axels, cause I was an idiot and did not know how to race it right.

Solution - make gas so f-in expensive, you will have to work with your design team day and night to satisfy the hunger for HP without mad low MPG and needless 2-4 cylinders.

OK, let end this thread. We all cool with that?

 

[gryphon1011]

Hey, apolinaras,

I agree with you completely. The staggered look is really nice especially when you've got larger rims. It's not a Japanese thing. AMG, RUF, Gemballa, Braubus, pretty much started the whole thing. I mean, I'm sure that people thought that a forum for the Ford Taurus was stupid too. ROCK ON DAWG!!!!!

Ain't nothin ricey about this........
http://www.hamann-motorsport.de/pictures/m119.jpg

 

[RAMdrd]

The staggered or raked look is ok on some cars. I don't care for it on newer, sleeker cars myself, especially the Taurus.

But if you like it sure, why not?

You can give the appearance of 60's muscle cars (that were doing this waaaaaay before ricemobiles got a foothold here) by getting a tire combination of differing profiles but similar ODs.

45s in front, 60s in the rear, but the price would be a wider tire in the front. The ABS would probably be happy, but handling would be off.

A segment of society still likes the old "power rake" look of the 40s and 50s- the front end up in the air so you can barely see the street. OF course, this is probably more due to failing rear springs rather than by design. : - )