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Does anybody know or can even guess what the cost of a Igniton key costs from a dealer on a 1993 GL Sedan. I went to a locksmith's shop and had a key made but it only lasted a week because it go really bent out of shape in my pocket and I tried to bend it back but it broke. My original ford key lasted forever.
 

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The ford dealer I went to to get my keys cut it only cost 5 bucks a key because it was a double side key for my escort.I still have all three keys I got cut and that was four years ago and they are straight as the day they were cut.Just make sure that the person that cuts it knows what they are doing because if they dont cut enough you could damage your ignition lock or your door lock putting the key in.
 

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i've had good luck with all keys made at the true value hardware store down the street... :notworthy:

you can also get OEM keys on ebay :D
 

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$10 is real expensive for a non-chipped key. I wouldn't pay more than $2 for one. My $1 Wal-Mart copy hasn't been bent out of shape yet. In fact, the only keys that came with my car were Wal-Mart copies so I don't even know how old that key is.
 

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I beat all of you guys. $84 for 3 keys. I hate pats and I next time I buy a car I am going to make for damn sure that I get atleast 2 keys.
 

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$84 for three PATS keys is a pretty good deal. Even off eBay, they can be $20 a pop, then you have to go through finding someone to pogram them that won't bend you over*. It helps if the PO provides at least 2 keys, then at least you can do more yourself.
When we bought our 'Star, it came with one key, and PATS II. I bought an OEM key off eBay for $21, and was trying to find someone to program it for me (Home Depot cut it for free), then I found streetkeys.com. They sold me a key, cutting and programming for $81.
I then took my eBay key, programmed it, then stuck it in the junk drawer at home to save future hassle.

* I could care less that a shop's NGS or ScanTool costs thousands of dollars, charging someone upwards of $110 (dealer) for 20 minutes (if you have all old codes cleared) or 10 (just to add) is nucking futs! Especially when all the 'tech' (the kid who did mine was 13!!) does is hook it up and then set it on the seat for it to do its thing. Total time he actually spent in the car... 3 minutes, 1 of those was determining which adapter to use on the ScanTool.
If only he had the smarts to figure out how to get my drivers door keypad code with it, but I must have expected to much, as his eyes kinda glazed over when I asked him to do it.
 

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If you have two PATS keys and just want another one made, it's really cheap. They charge you for the key (which oen dealer told me was about 22 bucks) and another 10 to program it, since they just need to put all three into a computer. If you're missing one, that's when it gets expensive. Jeckler...if you need a service done, and that service needs to be done using an expensive and sophisticated machine, which a company spent the money on, and made a capital investment in, shouldn't they at least be able to get back what they paid out for the machine, plus some for the work? Are they not entitled to a profit? Aren't they in business to make a profit, and don't they need to take risks (like buying expensive machines and computers) to make that profit? I'm not trying to bag on you, but think about what you're saying before you say it.

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If you already have two keys, you can program the third yourself, no need to have the dealer or anyone else do it for you. Put the third key away for a rainy day, so when someone loses a key, it's a simple matter of getting it, cutting it, and again, programming it yourself. Early PATS could be done with only one key on some cars.

I believe in paying a shop for its labor, not just its equipment (and I don't mean I want some Joe Blow working on my car with a monkey wrench and vice-grips). Sure, they should be able to recoup their costs, but not all at once. They're putting all their eggs in one basket doing it this way. Having to buy equipment is part of any business. I worked in a copy shop where a high-volume Xerox Docutech costs $200k, yet we only charged about 2-3 cents a page in quantity.
I'm no business major, but I'd venture to guess that it's possible for someone to charge half as much as the local competition, and be able to recoup the cost of that machine faster than everyone else, in a busy market. Of course, that means they have to do more work, but again, that's what we're paying for.
There's alot of expensive equipment in an auto shop, from tire balancers, to A/C recovery systems to transmission flush machines. Hell, even some wrenches are hundreds to thousands of dollars. They all cost alot of money, but it seems in this case, they really try to get you when making a key, all because they're using the magic, mysterious computer in the shape of a T.
 

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One of the reasons that they can charge that much is because another business hasn't shown that they have the appropriate equipment, and can do it cheaper. Sure, a business that buys it and recoups their cost in quantity will still recoup their cost. They do, however, need to do more work, which takes the techs that are doing that away from other things that they can be doing. If a shop in your area bought the equipment and could do it for half the price, the market would favor them, but the dealership does it at their cost because they know that no one else has the equipment. It's jsut economics. Any (relatively) smart person could tell you that.

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I ended up getting two PATS key for my 2001 off ebay for $10 each. Took the keys to a keyshop and they cut it for $4. The dealer wasn't really that bad, about $40 to program the two keys. I stopped by one of those quickie keyshops and they wanted $80 to program the key! And $40 for the key too.

Total cost was $64 for two keys programmed. I knew about the Pats key thing but in the middle of buying the car, forgot to make sure I got two sets of keys. Oh well, at least I'm all set now and don't have to worry about adding an alarm as it came with one.
 

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Originally posted by Qwertz9586@Aug 9 2004, 05:53 PM
$10 is real expensive for a non-chipped key. I wouldn't pay more than $2 for one. My $1 Wal-Mart copy hasn't been bent out of shape yet. In fact, the only keys that came with my car were Wal-Mart copies so I don't even know how old that key is.
I was being EXTREMELY conservative given a dealer's love for overcharging.
 

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How did we start talking about PATS? A '93 GL doesn't even use PATS and could care less if it's a Wal-Mart key or a dealer key.

BTW, the dealer might not even have Ford key blanks. When we got an extra PATS key for the Windstar from the Ford dealer, they gave us some unknown brand chipped key and still charged us for an hours worth of work plus the cost of the key (under $100 total).
 

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My 96 LX has pats, but I programmed my second key just fine...I think this only worked in '96 and '97
 

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I have the ultimate key cost $105 for my moms 87 Mercedes. The killer is that they are cut in such a way they can be cut by very few independent people. Other than the few you have to go to the dealer.
 
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