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Today I installed some Infinity Reference 6x8/5x7 speakers all around - but I kept my mach tweeters. These speakers are 180 watt peak, 60 watts RMS - and they are being powered by my Pioneer head unit 50 watts peak, 22 watts RMS.

The mids and highs are pretty good. They are clearer than factory speakers, but not a HUGE difference since I had the mach system before and the tweeters did a good job with the highs already.

However there is no bass/punch at all. My factory speakers were able to punch decently and these infinity's are of much better quality (not made with a paper cone, etc.). It sounds like the bass is flat and "artificial". I didn't use the speaker connectors, but instead soldered the connections instead and am pretty sure that I got the polarities correct.

I tested each speaker with the fade/balance, and each speaker performs roughly the same with bass reproduction.

Is this an issue with the speakers needing breaking in (as I hope) for the woofer develop lows? Or is it a power issue - even though 22 watts provided plenty of punch with just the factory speakers?

Thanks for your help
-Matt
 

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you need to check the polarity. If the polarity is incorrect, then the speakers are out of phase. When opposings speakers are out of phase, the bass is cancelled out.

Try adjusting the fade/balance to single out each speaker. If the bass gets louder when you are listening to only one speaker, then the polarity is incorrect somewhere.
 

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Usually aftermarket speakers like that are used by people for mids/highs, not bass. Dont be surprised if the paper speakers make better bass than the Infinities.

I have JBL's in my Mustang and they have zero bass, even with it turned all the way up. Get a sub box and an amp if you want bass.
 

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Originally posted by jtkz13@Aug 18 2004, 02:12 AM
Usually aftermarket speakers like that are used by people for mids/highs, not bass. Dont be surprised if the paper speakers make better bass than the Infinities.

I have JBL's in my Mustang and they have zero bass, even with it turned all the way up. Get a sub box and an amp if you want bass.
sub box and an amp? yeah, you might want the sub as well as the box ;) hehehe

but yeah, i've read that the references aren't all that good at bass response. like already posted, i think these speakers were meant for better mid's and high's.
 

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Most speakers, such as the infinity's, are meant for midbass response and not bass response, so they will not thump like the factory speakers, which are setup to accept all frequencies.

You can, however, get better midbass response from them by adding an aftermarket amplifier to power them. This will greatly increase their sound output, clarity, and overall sound quality.

If you want better bass response, you're going to need to add a sub. Typically, the larger the cone is, the lower the frequencies it can reproduce, which is why larger diameter subwoofers are able to repoduce bass frequencies better than smaller diameter coxial (triaxial, etc) speakers.
 

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You definitely need to check the polarities. I installed Infinity Reference components (6x8") and the woofers from another set of components (guy sent me the wrong items) which were also 6x8" in my sister's Cougar. She gets great bass response. Of course it doesn't sound like a sub, but the bass response is worlds better than even my Taurus stock speakers and my old Clarion hu.

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JR, that better response could be due to the enclosure. If her doors are sealed up better than ours, they will most likely sound better. That is one of the reasons my components are not in the doors.

edit: checking the polarities is always a good idea tho, I usually assume everything is hooked up correctly.
 

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i have infinity references in the deck and doors and before i had subs i thought they had enough bass. as said before check those connections. I also have found that the head unit really makes a difference with these speakers. my friend has them with a pioneer head unit and they dont get have anywhere near the quality sound as mine do with my alpine. in reality if your looking for killer bass just cave in and put a couple of 12"ers in there :fro:
 
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