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Anybody know how to switch up the wiring so that the headlights dont turn on unless i turn them on, so they dont run during the day?
 

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Depending on where you are you might not want to do that. Here in Texas you can actually get a small insurance discount for having daytime running lights. Just a thought.
 

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... :blink: do you really think im gonna tell the insurance company that?
you crazy, im still a teenager , those bastards look for any reasons to up my insurance
 

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Originally posted by SableTuner@Aug 29 2004, 01:52 PM
... :blink: do you really think im gonna tell the insurance company that?
you crazy, im still a teenager ****, those bastards look for any reasons to up my insurance
hey actually about insurance lets say i install like a bunch of stuff like a supercharger, mags, new suspension...and i tell em so that stuff can be like insured so that if a woman runs it to me theyll cover it, can they hike my insurance costs up like crazy since a have like a sports car set up?
:huh: Easy there killer. He's just trying to give you help. Chill out.

Anyway, I suppose you could just *unplug* the DRL switch from the headlight switch.

And I don't know where you are, or who you go through insurance with, but my insurance isn't that expensive and I'm a teenager as well, with 2 reported accidents.

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Originally posted by SableTuner@Aug 29 2004, 10:42 AM
Anybody know how to switch up the wiring so that the headlights dont turn on unless i turn them on, so they dont run during the day?
quoted from: http://www.atmob.org/old_discuss_archive/msg01145.html

" On my '96 Mercury Sable, there is a fuse labeled DTR. I pulled it 3 years
ago with no detrimental effects, Although the dealer would not officially
disclose that there was a fuse for this purpose, one of the mechanics did."
 

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I thought in Canada, it was required BY LAW to have your DRL's on. according to your profile, you are in Canada. Not to be a wise ass or anything but wouldnt that give you a ticket or fine? Why not just leave it alone?
 

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Originally posted by Nick986@Aug 29 2004, 06:37 PM
I thought in Canada, it was required BY LAW to have your DRL's on. according to your profile, you are in Canada. Not to be a wise ass or anything but wouldnt that give you a ticket or fine? Why not just leave it alone?
No. Here in Canada a new car is required to have functioning daytime running lights. Once the car is off the dealers lot, there is no requirement to have functioning DRLs. In fact, here in Ottawa, where I live, anytime you see a Crown Vic without DRLs you can assume it is a police car.


I think DRLs are a great idea. The Canadian implementation of them, is wrong, however. I think all vehicles should have their full lighting system on at all times. I know many people who don't bother to turn their full lighting system on in inclement weather because, as they say, "I already have DRLs".


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Originally posted by Markus@Aug 30 2004, 01:44 PM
I think DRLs are a great idea.  The Canadian implementation of them, is wrong, however.  I think all vehicles should have their full lighting system on at all times.  I know many people who don't bother to turn their full lighting system on in inclement weather because, as they say, "I already have DRLs".
meh drl's are stupid, it should be an option, waste of your headlights and energy, if a person wants his headlights on as he has to do if turn em on
anyways if ppl dont want drls on they'll just mess with their car so it doesnt work no more so whats the point?
 

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just pop the DRL or DTR fuse outta your under-the-hood fuse box. i did it to mine about a week ago because my batt was dying...it helped a little, and i replaced it today and didn't bother putting that puny ass 15A fuse back in. its a waste of power IMHO
 

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Originally posted by SableTuner+Aug 30 2004, 07:02 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SableTuner @ Aug 30 2004, 07:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Markus@Aug 30 2004, 01:44 PM
I think DRLs are a great idea.  The Canadian implementation of them, is wrong, however.  I think all vehicles should have their full lighting system on at all times.  I know many people who don't bother to turn their full lighting system on in inclement weather because, as they say, "I already have DRLs".
meh drl's are stupid, it should be an option, waste of your headlights and energy, if a person wants his headlights on as he has to do if turn em on
anyways if ppl dont want drls on they'll just mess with their car so it doesnt work no more so whats the point? [/b][/quote]
1) DRLs work. Collisions in bad weather dropped when DRLs were introduced. This is true in Canada and in Scandinavia.

2) I hope English is not your first language.

3) DRLs were introduced because the population at large does not have the mental capacity to turn their lights on in bad weather.

4) How can anything that makes your car more visible be stupid? Following your train of thought to its ultimate conclusion, brake lights and turn signals are stupid.

5) I hope English is not your first language.

6) Most people never disconnect their DRLs. A simple glance around should have told you this!

7) I hope English is not your first language.

8) It's not DRLs that are stupid...
 

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DRLs also give you a false sense of security.

My mom drove home one night with just the DRLs on. She couldn't find the headlight switch (it was low on the dash behind the turn signal in the Windstar versus up high on the dash next to the cluster on our old Aerostar) and figured that because the van had DRLs, the other lights would come on automatically. Luckly it was just after sunset so there was still some light out.

My dad drives with just the parking lights on and DRLs when he's driving the van at night. He says they're brighter than the headlights on his Escort. This is true because the headlights on his Escort are aimed down at the road only lighting up the road 5 feet in front of the bumper.

And DRLs waste gas (not enough to be noticed, but it does).
 

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Originally posted by Qwertz9586@Sep 1 2004, 08:12 PM
DRLs also give you a false sense of security.

My mom drove home one night with just the DRLs on. She couldn't find the headlight switch (it was low on the dash behind the turn signal in the Windstar versus up high on the dash next to the cluster on our old Aerostar) and figured that because the van had DRLs, the other lights would come on automatically. Luckly it was just after sunset so there was still some light out.

My dad drives with just the parking lights on and DRLs when he's driving the van at night. He says they're brighter than the headlights on his Escort. This is true because the headlights on his Escort are aimed down at the road only lighting up the road 5 feet in front of the bumper.

And DRLs waste gas (not enough to be noticed, but it does).
DRLs give a false sense of security? Just because your mom didn't know how to turn the headlights on? Just because your mom didn't realize that DRLs did not turn on all the exterior lights? Just because your mom didn't read the owner's manual?

With just the DRLs on, your mom would have been driving at night without dashboard illumination. How anyone can do this and not realize that the tail lights may not be on is beyond me. How anyone can get into, and drive, a car at night not knowing where the headlight switch is is even further beyond me. I'm not trying to be offensive, but, your mom had no right to be driving at night not knowing where the headlight switch was. The false sense of security came not from the DRLs, but from your mom's ignorance. She should have read the owner's manual.


Why does your dad not have his headlights aimed?


You're right. DRLs do consume a little bit of gas.


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Well, my mom doesn't know too much about cars. It's just there to get you places. I'm sure she represents the millions of people on the road already. She has found out where the headlight switch is since, but she hardly does any night driving.

And why doesn't my dad aim his headliights? He's driving an '81 Escort that's been in an accident (front and rear damage). He doesn't care, it gets him to work and back and as long as it runs, it's fine.
 

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Originally posted by Qwertz9586@Sep 1 2004, 10:20 PM
Well, my mom doesn't know too much about cars. It's just there to get you places. I'm sure she represents the millions of people on the road already. She has found out where the headlight switch is since, but she hardly does any night driving.

And why doesn't my dad aim his headliights? He's driving an '81 Escort that's been in an accident (front and rear damage). He doesn't care, it gets him to work and back and as long as it runs, it's fine.
No. Most people know how to switch their headlights on. And even fewer people who don't know where the switch is would attempt to drive without finding out. A simple reading of the owner's manual is all that is required. I just asked my 8 year old daughter to turn on the headlights in my car. She said she didn't know how and went, of her own accord, out to the car, brought in the owner's manual, and tried to figure it out.

Why on earth would your Dad drive with parking lights and DRLs instead of the normal headlights? He's already gone to the trouble of turning the parking lights on and, believe it or not, it's not much of a stretch to move the headlight switch an extra notch. I don't know what van your Dad drives, but if it's one where the DRL implementation is to pulse the high beams, he will be blinding people at night.

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It's an '00 Windstar. I have no clue why my dad doesn't turn on the headlights. I do turn on my headlights when I drive the van at night. The only thing I like about DRLs is that I don't have to turn on anything on a certain stretch of highway requiring DRLs. The other times, it's just a waste of energy.

Don't be surprise that nearly 80% of the population doesn't read the instructions. My cousin couldn't find the headlight swtich on an '87 Escort (it's below the dash). He thought it was on the turn signal stick like his mom's '97 Escort.
 

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There are times you just don't want your lites on, like pulling
into a drivein movie theatre,(remember them?) or maybe i'll get
a girlfriend in a trailer park, they don't want lites shining in their
windows, but most of all i don't want my kinda girlfreind downstairs
neighbor knowing exactly when i get in at nite, shining my lites rite
in her window. :D
well, my under hood fuses are not marked and i do'nt have
a manual, how do i find the rite fuse to pull? just keep popping
them out til the lites go out? is the fuse under the hood or
on the floor panel?
I HATE THESE THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks, dave
 

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Originally posted by Markus@Aug 31 2004, 02:30 PM
1) DRLs work. Collisions in bad weather dropped when DRLs were introduced. This is true in Canada and in Scandinavia.

2) I hope English is not your first language.

3) DRLs were introduced because the population at large does not have the mental capacity to turn their lights on in bad weather.

4) How can anything that makes your car more visible be stupid? Following your train of thought to its ultimate conclusion, brake lights and turn signals are stupid.

5) I hope English is not your first language.

6) Most people never disconnect their DRLs. A simple glance around should have told you this!

7) I hope English is not your first language.

8) It's not DRLs that are stupid...
k woah there buddy. man what crawled up your ass. its not like im writting an essay. i kinda talk 4 languages almost on a daily basis so its no surprise i mess alot of stuff up
also about turn signals, k thats just too much, not many ppl get more pissed than i do when ppl dont use em
 
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