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i have a '98 Taurus w/the 24V V6. lately, it's been difficult to get her started...i crank and crank on it, but it just won't fire up!

i see ford has tsb 98-21-12 on what sounds like this. does anyone have an answer to it?

after i get it running...it runs just like the first day i had it. doesn't stall or idle roughly....and no service engine light either.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks in advance,

joe
 

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My 2000 w/ the vulcan has been hard starting ever since it's gotten cold outside.

To avoid cranking the starter forever, I lightly press the gas pedal which usually fires the engine right up.
 

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Sounds like a weak battery to me. How long since the battery has been replaced, if at all? How cold is it where you are? The colder is it, the harder it will be for your battery to crank that starter. So a weak battery in freezing temperatures will have a helluva time cranking that starter.
 

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thanks for the replies...

well, can't be the cold...i'm in southern california, and the battery is just a couple years old. it cranks and cranks...but it just won't fire up for 4 or 5 10-15 second tries.

someone also mentioned the multi-pack relay...???

but like i said....it runs fine after it's started.
 

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Usually if it cranks but doesn't fire, it is a fuel problem. A spark problem such as a bad coil pack should be obvious when running; i.e. Misfiring.
 

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I think this is a Duratec thing. Alot of guys here complain of the same problem. I don't know if there is a fix for it.
 

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thanks again...

i see Ford has a TSB 98-21-12 on hard starting / long cranking.
i'm hoping someone here knows the fix for it.
 

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Originally posted by PC_Marine@Jan 15 2004, 04:20 PM
My 2000 w/ the vulcan has been hard starting ever since it's gotten cold outside.

To avoid cranking the starter forever, I lightly press the gas pedal which usually fires the engine right up.
I'm thinking this is a fuel related problem, but like someone else said it could be a battery related problem. Since I live in WI, it's like <20 degrees F outside, and my battery hasn't been replaced ever (I have 70K miles).
 

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Take it into Kragen or Autozone and have the charging system checked. Rule out the charging system first. If it checks out find, it may be your fuel system. Could be a fuel pump problem.

There can be a number of reasons why you are having starting problems. I woud discribe everything, but I don't have time to break it all down. But, start with the charging system (battery & alternator).
 
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Originally posted by fix_it_joe@Jan 15 2004, 01:33 PM
well, can't be the cold...i'm in southern california, and the battery is just a couple years old. it cranks and cranks...but it just won't fire up for 4 or 5 10-15 second tries.
Im in socal and my mom's battery just crapped out on her windstar. Dont rule anything out. Autozone does free battery testing while the battery is in the car, as well as complimentary replacement.
 

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Originally posted by fix_it_joe@Jan 15 2004, 03:52 PM
i have a '98 Taurus w/the 24V V6. lately, it's been difficult to get her started...i crank and crank on it, but it just won't fire up!

i see ford has tsb 98-21-12 on what sounds like this. does anyone have an answer to it?

after i get it running...it runs just like the first day i had it. doesn't stall or idle roughly....and no service engine light either.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks in advance,

joe
hold down on the gas pedal while cranking. but do have this checked. also are your spark plugs clean? You did say you live in S. Cali. so it can't be the weather. do have it checked out immediately. BUt in case if you get stuck, cranking+holding down gas pedal usually fires it up.
 

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My engine sometimes takes a couple seconds to crank but I have to remember it is -30 degrees outside. I never have to touch the gas pedal though.
 

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i agree with it being fuel injected...one should not have to step on the gas to get it started.

yes...the plugs are new...just put them in...i thought it was that too.
battery is good, too.
 

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If it was a fuel delivery problem then the car would not be running normal after it has finally turned over. Your car would have a hard time starting then would cough and sputter and run like complete a** if there was a fuel delivery problem.
One thing you can do, though, if you have not already. Let the fuel lines pressurize themselves before you start it. Put the key in the ON position and leave it there for about 5 seconds. This pressurizes the fuel lines which gets the injectors ready to fire. Try it and see if it becomes any easier to start the car.
 

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To anyone who has to press the gas pedal a bit to get the engine to start: You have a non-funtional Idle Air Control Valve (IAC). Period.

Steve
 

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i remember hearing about a relay box under the hood, by the fan could go bad.
a CCM or something like that....like the relays are not kicking over right way....maybe it's to turn on the fuel pump or something else.

i will check it out this weekend.
 

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I had this problem for the first time today.
Waiting for the lines to prime allowed me to start the car.
 

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Originally posted by PC_Marine@Jan 15 2004, 05:20 PM
My 2000 w/ the vulcan has been hard starting ever since it's gotten cold outside.

To avoid cranking the starter forever, I lightly press the gas pedal which usually fires the engine right up.
Up here in Boston just a couple days ago it reached -29 with the windchill. In other words its pretty goddamn cold this winter. Anyways, my car usually fires right up. But because of the temps during the last week or so I have to press the button twice on my remote starter every morning. WhenI press the button for the first time, the engine cranks but fails to start. I'll press it again and it will start up just fine.
 

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Don't forget to check the fuel pressure regulator. if the rubber in the regulator goes bad it lets the fuel drain back into the tank. Heroin you may need to crank for sometime before the fuel reaches the fuel rail. all of you with this problem get the fuel pressure checked make sure it holds pressure for more the 10 mins without losing 5 psi if is loses more the 5 psi in 10 mins replace the fuel pressure regulator
 
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