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I know that the most important component in autocross is the driver, but how well would a heavy sedan such as the Ford Taurus fare? My previous car, a Sable handled impressively for how worn its suspension was and the fact that its not a sports car. It was very balanced, it would gradually oversteer, and sometimes oversteer. I am just interested in what you guys think of the idea.

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How's your bank account for a trans rebuild? :D
 

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The car was an automatic at the time of these pictures. Mods at the time were Gen3 rear disk conversion, 24mm front sway bar, 25mm rear sway bar, Eibach lowering springs on KYB struts all around, and a Gen2 SHO ATX trans cooler. The car is set up so "tight" that it'll three-wheel around a tight enough corner. With the automatic I never placed well but I never came in last either, very respectable for the great white whale that it is. I'm looking forward to this coming auto-x season. I did a manual transmission swap over this past summer and I hoping to see improvements in both handling and power delivery.
 

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Once I finish my rig I'm building it specifically for autocross.

These cars weigh as much as muscle cars of the day that you see racing in these. With the proper amount of power, you can probably place pretty high in the ranks.

But like you said, it's all about the driver.
 

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Here's the three wheeling picture, you can just see light under the right rear tire and a little separation of the shadow from the tire.

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Hey, I thought that VWs had that "lift the rear tire" market cornered?

I've found AutoCross to be a lot of fun. No idea sure where a [modified?] Taurus fits class-wise. I have not run much in the last 10 years... but part of the equation is your goals & expectations. Of course how much $$ you want to spend always plays a big factor.
You get the same adrenaline rush regardless of your "time" :biggrin: ... that and hangin' out with other car nuts was what I liked.
Have fun!
 

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My car falls under E street prepared because I have roller rockers which are considered an internal engine modification. I am well out classed by every other car in ESP. I'm not sure if the manual swap will move me again.
 

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IMHO, if you are havin' fun - that is what counts. I sometimes did not look at my run times so as not to distract from the adrenaline rush.

I used to run my Tiger with a local club. Over the years it got moved from one class to another... but my [then] 35-year-old car could never compete against the "best in class" cars - especially with me driving :rolleyes:. The worst events were when the girl in the S10 pickup would kick my butt :blush:
FWIW - in the Tiger's case, switching to "R-compound" tires made a huge diference.
Enjoy it.
 

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I've thought about taking my Sable autocrossing sometime. I haven't competed in about 25 years. It's more for fun, than trying to be competitive - that costs more money. I would like to stay in the stock classes. But, if I put on the Moog cargo coil springs in the rear like I'm planning to, somebody might object.

Not wild about having the auto tranny - just too much lag on the downshifts. I'll probably need new tires before next winter, so it's a good time to grind these down to dust. Need to fix the front end clunk before I can think about doing anything, though.

I also want to get some of the newer drivers in the house out for some confidence building.
 

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*cough* Vulcan.
 

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*cough* Vulcan.
Vulcans can be fast. My brother-in-law and I built a supercharged 3.3L Vulcan for his former '04 Ranger that put 308 HP to the wheels. Granted, for what it cost him in parts, we could have built an 800 HP blown 5.0 with plenty of money to spare. It also had the issue of blowing head gaskets at will, even with ARP studs. It was certainly fast though.

Power isn't your biggest concern for auto-x anyway. Just a stock Vulcan with a manual tranny would probably be plenty powerful and a lot of fun. A 'Tec with a manual would be a blast. I've often wished the drivetrain of my '95 SHO was in the stiffer chassis of my '00. 200 HP is plenty for an Auto-X event when you can control the tranny. Even that is hard to put to the ground in a Taurus.
 

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My car falls under E street prepared because I have roller rockers which are considered an internal engine modification. I am well out classed by every other car in ESP. I'm not sure if the manual swap will move me again.
You will be in XP with that manual swap.

Not a Gen 4, but 90% of the chassis modifications I have still apply. Waiting for some Hoosiers to arrive to start my season.



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I'd like to do subframe connectors next just for the hell of it but this summer I'm going to be away from my shop for 6-8 months. I don't see a whole lot of work getting done on the car.
 

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I'd like to do subframe connectors next just for the hell of it but this summer I'm going to be away from my shop for 6-8 months. I don't see a whole lot of work getting done on the car.
Sticky tires, a ton of front negative camber along with subframe connectors would make the car relatively quick.

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I have about 2 degrees of negative camber right now because I never drilled the spot welds when I put lowering springs on it. In the summer I run Perelli P Zero Neros 225/45 ZR 17, they're ok but could be better for auto cross.
 
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