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well i was a little bored and kinda irked because of my rear pinch bolts so i decided i would install one of my SHO seats.. now everbody told me i would have to swap the base on these seats to keep the airbag sensor... not true the sensor actually bolts right up but a tab needs to be bent down and the trim piece cut to fit over it i will include a couple pics and explain what you are seeing, i think that would be the best way to describe it...


this is a little plug attached to my old seat i dont have any idea what it is but i really dont think it should be disconected based on the color and the complexity of the tab that hold it on


this is the airbag sensor and seatbelt end that i needed to swap over... i disconected the battery and waited a little while so i wouldnt screw up anything accidentaly. make sure to keep the nut that came off of the gen 4 seat because you will need to reuse it. if you notice the little rectangular hole right above the round one, that needs to go on the tab on the new seat so it does not pivot.


this pic is of the gen 4 seat belt on the SHO seat if you notice the end of the airbag sensor is under the carpet on the side of the seat, there is a metal bar under it that the carpet attaches to, it needs to be bent down and out of the way i just used a hammer and tapped it until i had the clearence i needed. also i forgot to take pics of the trim piece that covers all of this but if you notice the little metal clips that go into the trim piece, there are two just like that on the trim piece and they both need to be cut flush with the smooth part of the trim piece


this pic is to show the tab that needs to be bent down or cut off in order for the seatbelt and airbag sensor to fit on the seat correctly.. i used a hammer and just bent it down seemed to work well for me and didnt take much time

all the wires need to be routed out of the way of the motors and gears. there are two wires that go to the power seat motor one red and one black i am going to run wires under the carpet from one of the holes where the seat mounts then under the door sill/kick panels and then under the dash and wire it in...

now these directions are for passengers side seat only i have not yet pulled out the drivers seat... it will provide its own challenges mainly because of the power pedal adjust switch and the power lumbar on the SHO seat... but i believe the newer gen 4's have the pedal adjust switch mounted on the dash i may have to look into that. also i have not tested the seat to make sure that everything will clear the parts that were added/modified when i get the seat all wired up i will let you all know how it works..

i hope this helps all of you it should be the same for all gen 3 seats i would think.. also here is a pic of the finished product



if you have any questions just ask :)

i will add more pics of the this tomorrow night as long as i remember and will take more pics of things i forgot when i do the drivers side...
 

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my old seats are parchment i believe it is called and the new ones are tan... i am planning on storing my old seats in the rafters they are in better shape than the sho seats but for now the sho seats are staying
 

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G3 SHO leather.

My favorite part about my old G3 was my SHO leather.
$100 and it was the best upgrade to the car in the entire time my family has owned it since 1998.
My dad still comments today how much he likes those seats.
 

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does anyone know if gen 4's have wiring for pass side power seat already there? besides cenntenial i frgot to look around
 

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Last time I had my carpet out, I noticed a 2-wire connector taped to the wire bunch under both seats. They didn't stick out of the carpet like the other two connectors. From what I could tell, those were connectors for power seats. I have an SE, so it didn't come with power seats, but it looks like it was ready for dual power seating.

I'm glad someone with a med. parchment 4th gen did this. I was curious to see how later g3 SHO tan seats matched up with the g4 interior. Now I'm 100% sure I want to do an SHO seat swap from a 98-99. :horns:
 

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Note to self: Watch for tan SHO seats at the junkyard...

Nice job! :thumb:
 

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well i am bringing this back up. after all this time i finally got my drivers seat installed! unfortunatly it was too dark and cold and i was in a hurry so i didnt take any pics of what i did...
i ended up taking the base from my gen 4 seat and putting it on the SHO seat because the SHO base was damaged in the accident the car was in, due to the power lumbar control i had the leave the SHO wiring attached but i trimmed it down quite a bit so that i have a power and ground which i will splice into my gen 4 wiring harness later, i also have to find a good spot to locate the switch but i will do that later.
so the rundown of parts from which seat i used were:
gen 4. power base, trimpiece with switches (power seat controls and pedals), seat buckle all of this was kept together due to wiring
SHO. cusions, lumbar switch with wiring, and trim piece that goes around belt buckle

so i still need to wire in the power passenger control (which i found a perfect ground behind the kick panel), also need to wire in lumbar control on the drivers side along with mounting the switch and thats it!!

i did take pics the next day though!!



edit another problem i ran into is the little plastic handle for the tilt control. in order to get the side trim off that handle must be removed the only way i could get them off was to force them off i ended up breaking both of them. by an odd chance of luck i had one laying on the floor near the heater vent in softened up like rubber and i think that is the key to removing it but i have not tried it to make sure
 

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Sorry to bring this back up...but I'm considering doing this modification.

Not sure how comfortable I am working with the airbag stuff, but this swap of the seat bases interests me. Do you have any information/details/pictures about this process? I know you said you have to remove the seat back adjuster lever, but what else? Are there any particular bolts you need to remove?

Did you swap the rear seat into your car or did you leave the rear seat alone?
 

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QUOTE (Bull Geek @ May 26 2009, 10:40 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=727991
Sorry to bring this back up...but I'm considering doing this modification.

Not sure how comfortable I am working with the airbag stuff, but this swap of the seat bases interests me. Do you have any information/details/pictures about this process? I know you said you have to remove the seat back adjuster lever, but what else? Are there any particular bolts you need to remove?

Did you swap the rear seat into your car or did you leave the rear seat alone?[/b]

working with the airbags is not that big of deal, if you dont have e service manual for the car you are working on the standard time is to wait 30 minutes with the battery disconected. (this is what i did cause i it took me almost this long to get the seat bolts out they are in there kinda dumb) the only thing is that with some seatbelt pre-tensioners when they are torqued down the computer needs to be reset, im not sure on the taurus/sable though.

i do not have any pictures but i do need to put my gen 4 seats back together on their bases i could take pics of that it would just be the reverse for taking tham apart. there are 5 main bolts 4 on the bottom and one on the side at the pivot point for the back, along with some screws, etc.

yeah i put in the rear seat too so that everything matched up colorwise, it drops right in except you need to take apart the center sholderstrap/ pass side buckle assembly there is a little ring that holds them together it needs to be crushed to get out. you need to do this so you can get the belt through the hole in the seat, then the only other problem i have is that the location of the belt re-winder thing is in the way of putting a trim piece around the belt
 

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QUOTE (sable23 @ May 26 2009, 02:22 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=728025
working with the airbags is not that big of deal, if you dont have e service manual for the car you are working on the standard time is to wait 30 minutes with the battery disconected. (this is what i did cause i it took me almost this long to get the seat bolts out they are in there kinda dumb) the only thing is that with some seatbelt pre-tensioners when they are torqued down the computer needs to be reset, im not sure on the taurus/sable though.

i do not have any pictures but i do need to put my gen 4 seats back together on their bases i could take pics of that it would just be the reverse for taking tham apart. there are 5 main bolts 4 on the bottom and one on the side at the pivot point for the back, along with some screws, etc.

yeah i put in the rear seat too so that everything matched up colorwise, it drops right in except you need to take apart the center sholderstrap/ pass side buckle assembly there is a little ring that holds them together it needs to be crushed to get out. you need to do this so you can get the belt through the hole in the seat, then the only other problem i have is that the location of the belt re-winder thing is in the way of putting a trim piece around the belt[/b]
Yea I've removed some seats out of a Gen 1...wow that wasn't a fun job :lol2:

But if the seat of the G3 swapped over to the G4 base without any issue, then I don't have to worry about swapping the seat belt, etc right? Just the lever that you grab to adjust the seatback is the real main issue/pain? Sounds like the back seat isn't bad either.

I have an 18" breaker bar that can help loosen some of those bolts.

But yea man if you get some pictures that would be great, I'd appreciate it B)
 

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Kirk has more SHO parts than one can count. NOt sure what is left of seats, but guarantee more will come in regardless.
 

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yeah the bases swap out without having to remove the pre-tensioners although if you do not currently have a power passenger seat then you will be stuck with manual adjustment. and the drivers side of the SHO seats will most likely have power lumbar that you are going to have to wire in and find a location to mount the switch when i swapped bases i had to cut most of the wiring from the SHO seat just so i didnt confuse my self lol
 
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