American Motorsport Vs. Diablo

The chips start at $325 not $350. $350 is for two programs. We have the ability to access and change all 3000 parameters in the EEC, which leads to better performance and driveability. Diablo and others only have the ability to change like 85 parameters. Not only do we have access to all parameters, but for an N/A car, we change like 300.

Our chip is right the first time. We have posted results with dynosheets in one of these forums. We also offer better auto tranny performance than most, among other things.

I've been convinced by the other people who have gotten american motorsports chips and extensively sung its praise. I'll be saving the extra hundred for the AM chip.

Let me know.

What do you have for a 3.0l Tempo computer I beleive Z2X is the number on the PCM

this is going in my 86 with a manual...... N/A stock everything for now

That car is still speed density is it not?

If all you want is firmer shifts, take your pick. Almost all "off the shelf" chips will do that just fine. In fact, they bank on it, because that's the one feature that will make anyone believe that their car is faster (believe me, it feels MUCH faster when you have firm shifts.)

From the graphical results I have seen, American Motorsport has REAL gains, not just butt dyno claims. If you can't afford dyno tuning, go with them. If you really want a chip that will squeeze the most out of your particular powertrain, with your particular mods and idiosyncrasies, I highly recommend dyno tuning. It will cost you, though.

Originally posted by SixFoFalcon@May 27 2004, 06:46 PM
If you really want a chip that will squeeze the most out of your particular powertrain, with your particular mods and idiosyncrasies, I highly recommend dyno tuning.  It will cost you, though.

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How expensive is Dyno Tuning (rough estimate)? I just found out today that we have one in our town (which is a pleasant surprise to me).

I have to agree with sixfo. I just got my americanmotorsport chip and the butt dyno is impressed. :lol:

I'm hoping to borrow a g-tech and compare stock vs superchips vs americanmotorsport. I'll post the results whenever I get a chance to test them.

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If you really want a chip that will squeeze the most out of your particular powertrain, with your particular mods and idiosyncrasies, I highly recommend dyno tuning.  It will cost you, though.

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How expensive is Dyno Tuning (rough estimate)? I just found out today that we have one in our town (which is a pleasant surprise to me). [/b][/quote]
Dynotuning is not worth it for a stock car.

However, we do offer dynotuning. We are one of the only companies that has the equipment and capability to log EEC data REAL TIME, and then use this data to make changes.

We charge $500-600 including dynotime, a/f, horsepower and torque printouts, a chip or reflash, etc. Add $100 for a handheld flasher.

Originally posted by americanmotorsport.com@May 27 2004, 09:11 PM
Dynotuning is not worth it for a stock car.

However, we do offer dynotuning. We are one of the only companies that has the equipment and capability to log EEC data REAL TIME, and then use this data to make changes.

We charge $500-600 including dynotime, a/f, horsepower and torque printouts, a chip or reflash, etc. Add $100 for a handheld flasher.

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Not to worry, i still plan on getting a Microtuner from you. I definitely couldn't see spending that kind of money on a stock car, and a daily driver at that. Was just curious how much that costed since i drove by the new one in my town on my way back from lunch yesterday.

Speaking of which expect and email from me today to get the ball rolling on that project (unless i get swamped at work)

Cool. Just let me know.

But just to ease everyone's mind, one reason we get such great gains on these cars (other than experience, knowledge and better software and hardware), is that we have worked on many cars live (most Ford's with just about every possible combo), and logged every one. So you all get the benefits of the data we have gathered over time (we are one of the only companies that can read live data from the EEC), so we get excellent results w/o even having the car, and it is right the first time.

Out of curiosity, if I were to get a chip would I only need to get it reflashed for major upgrades? Or would I need to get it reflashed even for basic upgrades like a flowmaster, or Cai or anything like that?

You would need to reburn it for whatever mods would require a chip in the first place...