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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 02-24-2019, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you all for your comments, while I have had this post I swapped to high octane chevron Techron fuel and accumulated about 350 Miles in my Bull. My Taurus did not run as smooth, got less mileage and defiantly had less power. CATs did not operate as effeciantly as they do as on 0-Ethanol. So it may cost more but I believe ethanol free fuel/pure gas is a better fuel to run.

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This debate comes up a lot. Simply put, non ethanol fuel has more energy per gallon. I think the "runs better" effect is placebo, but you will see higher MPG out of it. With that said, there's nothing wrong with 10% ethanol fuel. It's been the standard for almost 20 years now. Ethanol has less energy but it has a better cooling effect than gasoline when it vaporizes, so it lowers the risk of spark knock/preignition.


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In 2000 Taurus 3.0 L V6 Vulcan.

In hot dry weather conditions had pinging and very bad performance, during moderate acceleration, on "Regular" 87 Octane E-10.

Did everything I could - maintenance wise - to the car to prevent that (ensure EGR system working correctly, try to clean carbon from combustion chamber etc. etc. ) Helped somewhat, but not totally.

So I just switched - all the time now - to PREMIUM GAS, 91 OCTANE E-0
(NO ETHANOL / JUST GOOD QUALITY PREMIUM GASOLINE WITH no ethanol, and A LITTLE HIGHER OCTANE RATING).

Much better performance, better fuel economy. Solid.

It costs more, but I figured for the extra cost - it was worth it.

My car / my transportation is SO important to me ... that I figured that there is no point in risking sub-performing / questionable fuel in my vehicle.

The extra cost of the Premium Fuel - is of little or no consequence to me.

I don't have time or patience to waste / or desire risk my car or equipment - on lower quality fuel.

Premium Fuel with NO ETHANOL now goes in EVERYTHING I own and Run. Esp. All Small engines.
(received letter from small engine shop advising me to use Premium with no ethanol in all small engines - or will have trouble - their experience )

I would have to agree with the statement "They can keep their Ethanol" .
( Those Greenie Snowflakes / those unique "special people" / who live in some sort of fantasy world - who want to tell everyone else ... "what they should or should not do" ... and who try to brainwash the rest of the world ... into their way of "thinking" ... aka "mental illness")
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Picked up a book recently, used, and the author expresses his opinion on E-85 and E-85 Vehicles.

In that section, he has a negative opinion of Ethanol in gasoline, and E-85 vehicles.

Many of the same reasons I mentioned above.

He basically states he thinks it is a waste of money and sub-performing and may cause issues/problems in the vehicle.

book: Lemon Aid 1980-2015

[ read the short section on E-85 ]
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My Experience:

95 Octane E5 regular gas --> normal
95 Octane E10 gas --> slightly higher consumption
E85 higher consumption but same power

102 Octane E5 Shell V-Power Racing --> felt no difference to regular 95
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No alcohol best for small engines. It attracts water in seasonal use engines.


As for my cars, ~$0.55 per gallon, not worth anything.


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I ''import'' E free from NYS for my small engines. No issues with them since doing it years ago. Never noticed a difference in my road fleet using it other than my wallet being lighter from buying it since it's only available in premium.

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