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I think my engine may have been swapped. My vin # seems to think so.

Hello all.
So let me get right down to it. I don't know what engine I have in my car. Every time I go to an auto store im always getting the wrong parts for it because no one seems to know what engine is in it. My car is a 2004 Ford Taurus SE. Well... I believe it is an SE. I've had the vin decoded and some say its an SES. Here is the vin - 1FAFP55S14G163076.
The eight Digit is an S so that means Duratec DOHC right? But my engine doesn't have anything that says Duratec on it and it doesn't have the coils over the plugs. It has the 1 large coil and wires running to the plugs. Is this right? I cant find any other info so I figured I would ask. And is it an SE or an SES? If you need more info just ask!! Thanks!!
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Yes you have a Duratec engine, and it's supposed to have the COP, not the single coil pack. Does your engine look like this?



It shows a BUILD date of 2004, but are you sure it's not a late build 2003? What is on the title(2003 or 2004)?
From Fordetis....... https://www.taurusclub.com/forum/124-...-stickers.html


Primary Features
Build Date: 19.02.2004
Vehicle Line: Taurus/SableBody
Style: 4 Door Saloon
Version: TAURUS B VERSION
Engine: 3.0 V6 24V DOHC EFI Modular
Transmission: AX4NDrive: LHD FWD
Axle Ratio: 3.96 Final Drive Ratio
Emission: With 49 State/Non Green State Req
Air Conditioning: Manual Air Conditioning
Territory: (+)"USA"Paint: Ebony (Solid C/C)

Minor Features
  • Midnight Black Interior
  • (-) Version Packages
  • Less Fleet Related Items
  • Chicago Plant Build
  • U.S. Sales
  • Less Side Impact Package
  • SE Sport Sales Badge
  • Less Military Vehicles
  • Special Value Pack A
  • Less Ambient Temp/Speed Pack
  • Less Sales Feature - Level 1
  • NAAO Core Market
  • Job No.2 Program Control
  • With On-Board Diagnostic System
  • Less Premium Group
  • Less Special Language Label
  • Owner Hand Book Pack
  • Fixed Foot Pedals
  • Less Inter Cladding Surfaces
  • Front Floor Carpet Mats
  • Rear Floor Carpet Mats
  • With Illuminated Sunvisor - Drivers
  • With Illuminated Sunvisor-Passenger
  • Less Front Roof Grab Handle
  • With Rear Roof Grab Handle
  • Less Load Area Cover
  • Less Load Retention Net
  • Chrome-Plated
  • Less Roof Rack
  • Narrow B/Side Moulding-Body Colour
  • With Single Rear Wing Spoiler
  • With Dipping Rear View Mirror
  • With Drivers Power Mirror
  • With Passenger Power Convex Mirror
  • 4 Door Saloon
  • Less Front Seat Centre Armrest
  • With Split Fold-Down Rear Seat
  • Less Rear Seat Centre Armrest
  • Less Auxiliary Seats
  • With Driver 6 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
  • With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
  • With Remote Controlled Tailgate Release
  • With Central Locking System
  • With Door Entry Remote Control Unit
  • Less Keyless Entry System
  • Less Rear Window Wiper/Washer
  • With Electric Slide Sunroof
  • Less Front License Plate Bracket
  • With Smart Drivers Airbag Restraint
  • With Smart Passngr Airbag Restraint
  • Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
  • 16 X 6" Alum Wheel 5 Spoke
  • Less Wheel Covers
  • Less Immersion Heater
  • With 49 State/Non Green State Req
  • With Standard Suspension
  • 3.96 Final Drive Ratio
  • 3.0 V6 24V DOHC EFI Modular
  • With Front Disc-Brake/Rr Drum Brake
  • 4 Wheel Anti-Lock Braking System
  • Less Anti-Spin Traction System
  • Floor Shift
  • With Single Fuel Tank
  • With Non Locking Fuel Cap
  • For Unleaded Fuel
  • With Tilt Steering Wheel
  • With Luxury Steering Wheel
  • With Speed Control
  • With MPH/KMH Speedometer
  • Less Outside Temp Thermometer
  • Less Anti-Theft Alarm
  • Electronic AM/FM Stereo Cassette
  • With CD Player Autochanger
  • With NAAO Radio Frequency
  • Fixed Radio Aerial
  • Less Upgraded Sound System
  • Less Telephone
  • Less Cigar Lighter
  • With Level 1 Headlamps
  • Less Daytime Running Lamps
  • Less Front Fog Lamps
  • With Dome Maplight
  • Tail lamps - Level 1
  • With Conventional Headlamp Control
  • Ebony (Solid C/C)
  • Less B&A Control Codes Issue 030388
  • Less B & A Control Codes (9270)
  • AX4N
  • Taurus/Sable
  • TAURUS B VERSION
  • (-)"NL"
  • (-)"CDN"
  • (-)"AUS"
  • (-)"RA"
  • (-)"GU"
  • (-)"BRN"
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  • (-)"ATG"
  • (-)"KOR"
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Yes you have a Duratec engine, and it's supposed to have the COP, not the single coil pack. Does your engine look like this?



It shows a BUILD date of 2004, but are you sure it's not a late build 2003? What is on the title(2003 or 2004)?
From Fordetis....... https://www.taurusclub.com/forum/124-...-stickers.html


Primary Features
Build Date: 19.02.2004
Vehicle Line: Taurus/SableBody
Style: 4 Door Saloon
Version: TAURUS B VERSION
Engine: 3.0 V6 24V DOHC EFI Modular
Transmission: AX4NDrive: LHD FWD
Axle Ratio: 3.96 Final Drive Ratio
Emission: With 49 State/Non Green State Req
Air Conditioning: Manual Air Conditioning
Territory: (+)"USA"Paint: Ebony (Solid C/C)

Minor Features
  • Midnight Black Interior
  • (-) Version Packages
  • Less Fleet Related Items
  • Chicago Plant Build
  • U.S. Sales
  • Less Side Impact Package
  • SE Sport Sales Badge
  • Less Military Vehicles
  • Special Value Pack A
  • Less Ambient Temp/Speed Pack
  • Less Sales Feature - Level 1
  • NAAO Core Market
  • Job No.2 Program Control
  • With On-Board Diagnostic System
  • Less Premium Group
  • Less Special Language Label
  • Owner Hand Book Pack
  • Fixed Foot Pedals
  • Less Inter Cladding Surfaces
  • Front Floor Carpet Mats
  • Rear Floor Carpet Mats
  • With Illuminated Sunvisor - Drivers
  • With Illuminated Sunvisor-Passenger
  • Less Front Roof Grab Handle
  • With Rear Roof Grab Handle
  • Less Load Area Cover
  • Less Load Retention Net
  • Chrome-Plated
  • Less Roof Rack
  • Narrow B/Side Moulding-Body Colour
  • With Single Rear Wing Spoiler
  • With Dipping Rear View Mirror
  • With Drivers Power Mirror
  • With Passenger Power Convex Mirror
  • 4 Door Saloon
  • Less Front Seat Centre Armrest
  • With Split Fold-Down Rear Seat
  • Less Rear Seat Centre Armrest
  • Less Auxiliary Seats
  • With Driver 6 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
  • With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
  • With Remote Controlled Tailgate Release
  • With Central Locking System
  • With Door Entry Remote Control Unit
  • Less Keyless Entry System
  • Less Rear Window Wiper/Washer
  • With Electric Slide Sunroof
  • Less Front License Plate Bracket
  • With Smart Drivers Airbag Restraint
  • With Smart Passngr Airbag Restraint
  • Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
  • 16 X 6" Alum Wheel 5 Spoke
  • Less Wheel Covers
  • Less Immersion Heater
  • With 49 State/Non Green State Req
  • With Standard Suspension
  • 3.96 Final Drive Ratio
  • 3.0 V6 24V DOHC EFI Modular
  • With Front Disc-Brake/Rr Drum Brake
  • 4 Wheel Anti-Lock Braking System
  • Less Anti-Spin Traction System
  • Floor Shift
  • With Single Fuel Tank
  • With Non Locking Fuel Cap
  • For Unleaded Fuel
  • With Tilt Steering Wheel
  • With Luxury Steering Wheel
  • With Speed Control
  • With MPH/KMH Speedometer
  • Less Outside Temp Thermometer
  • Less Anti-Theft Alarm
  • Electronic AM/FM Stereo Cassette
  • With CD Player Autochanger
  • With NAAO Radio Frequency
  • Fixed Radio Aerial
  • Less Upgraded Sound System
  • Less Telephone
  • Less Cigar Lighter
  • With Level 1 Headlamps
  • Less Daytime Running Lamps
  • Less Front Fog Lamps
  • With Dome Maplight
  • Tail lamps - Level 1
  • With Conventional Headlamp Control
  • Ebony (Solid C/C)
  • Less B&A Control Codes Issue 030388
  • Less B & A Control Codes (9270)
  • AX4N
  • Taurus/Sable
  • TAURUS B VERSION
  • (-)"NL"
  • (-)"CDN"
  • (-)"AUS"
  • (-)"RA"
  • (-)"GU"
  • (-)"BRN"
  • (-)"BZ"
  • (-)"ATG"
  • (-)"KOR"
  • (-)"AW"
No my engine does not look like that. It has the one coil and plug wires. I looked at my door and it says manufacture date is 02/04. My title says it is an 04. The title says it is an SES. But the trunk lid says SE. Maybe the trunk lid has been replaced? the car is black.
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This is what my engine looks like

After looking at this website http://www.ford-taurus.org/taurusinfo/Engine/ it appears i have the vulcan engine? But my vin says otherwise. Is it safe to assume my engine has been swapped?

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That is an OHV Vulcan not a Tec. Any chance that S is a 2?
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That is an OHV Vulcan not a Tec. Any chance that S is a 2?
No chance. The vin on the car dash and the title says S.
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Then apparently the DOHC was replaced with an OHV

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Then apparently the DOHC was replaced with an OHV
The DOHC is a better engine correct? Thats so weird. Why would someone install a worse engine? Maybe it was cheaper? And do you think its an SES or a SE?
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A Vulcan is not necessarily "worse". They both have their pluses and minuses. The only thing that would make sense is that the previous owner had blown the Duratec and had a donor car with a good motor and swapped everything over. Without REALLY knowing what the PO did, it's all speculation. Out of curiosity, I would check to make sure the vin on the door sticker, the vin plate on the dash, the title all match. FordEtis says it's a SE Sport, aka SES. Trim level(SES, SE) doesn't make a difference when the engine doesn't match the vin. Take some pictures of the car and post them. This is interesting.

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VIN swap is the more likely issue here.

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