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So I bought my 2002 Taurus OHV vin U a couple months ago now, just sitting in my parking lot so I can get it on the road for when I get my license back (but that's another story)

Anyway, since I got the car the starter's been fairly intermittent. Once I put my new battery in the starter turned slowly the first couple starts but did eventually start. I then broke a thermostat bolt so it sat for a week or so without being run. That's when the problem started.

The car started fine after I fixed the bolt, no slow turning starter or anything. Started like a brand new car despite the oldish gas and cracked PCV elbow. Left it running for about an hour, driving around the lot just to try and rub some rust off the brakes. I went in for lunch and when I came back out it wouldn't start. Nothing at all from the starter. All electronics work and lights are bright so the battery should be fine, also it's a brand new battery.

After I broke the therm. bolt I did run the car to see how bad it would leak. It squirted ALOT of coolant in the general direction of the starter, exhaust manifold, and generally everywhere (I basically just had to move the car).

My question is can coolant on the starter cause it not to work, and is there anything else that could cause these symptoms? Also if I disassemble the starter could I clean it out and how?

I'm just trying to save $150 on a starter if I don't need one, thanks.
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Possible the battery was not being charged while you were running it or you may have a solenoid/starter or other issue. What is the battery voltage?

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I'm not sure what the voltage is, I can't find my multimeter anywhere, seems I probably left it in my old apartment. But if the voltage was low shouldn't the starter still try and spin, instead of suddenly dying like it did?
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Oh I meant to put in my first post I did try and jump the starter by bridging the terminals with a pair of bent nose pliers. I saw sparks but the starter did nothing, but I couldn't see if I had them on the right terminals because the exhaust is in the way so I gave up after a try.
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Not neccesarily, if you are not pushing enough amps you are not going to move the starter. You can try a direct jumper from batt positive to the ign terminal on the starter, charge the battery or swap with a known good battery. This is all assuming you have already checked the terminals BTW

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Well I plan on removing the starter hopefully Friday weather permitting, so I'll try and jump it from the battery while it's out, I want to clean up the outside of the starter anyway because of the coolant on it and that'll be easier with it off the car. Whether it does or doesn't start I'm going to have Wal-mart test the battery before spending any money. I'm sure the battery was charging because I've probably run the car 5-6 hours total on that battery.

Is it possible a seal on the starter or solenoid can go bad and cause it to short? The car was sitting for 6 months or more without running and the starter had coolant shot onto it.

EDIT: the battery terminals seem clean and tight, wires look fairly new and I think the old owner told me they were replace recently, not sure why though. Can't get a good view of the terminals on the starter until I get new jack stands but they will be cleaned and tight when I can get at em.

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Could have taken out either, solenoid more likely. I would begin with battery voltage and connections though. Keep it simple

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Thanks for your help jag1959 on this and my other threads, never had access to garages and tools and all that fun stuff so I'm still learning.

I'm gonna update this when I get under the car and make some progress
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NP. Paying it forward is why a lot of us are here. As far as testing goes if the battery & connections are good try a hot jumper before pulling the starter. It will be helpful for diagnostic purposes

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Your starter is most likely filled with oil and crud around the brushes and planetary gears. Is your oil pan gasket leaking? Someone just posted the similar problem less than a month ago.

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