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Replacing Starter - Can't get Starter Off

My friend and I have been working on this starter for a few weeks now. For what was supposed to be a simple job, we've reached an impasse.

My car is a 2001 Taurus.

We disconnected the battery, removed the wires connected to the solenoid, and then took out the two bolts connecting the starter to the car. I can't see anything else connecting the starter, and from what I've read online there is nothing else.

Problem is that we can't get the starter to budge, at all. We tug on the thing and the entire suspension moves, like there is still 5 nuts connecting the damn thing. We don't really know what to do anymore, any help?
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Which engine, OHV or DOHC? DOHC has bolts in two places so you might have missed one.

First try banging on the starter with a big hammer where the bolts go. The vibrations might free it up.

This is a little risky, but you could also try hooking the electrical wires back up and then cranking the engine with the mounting bolts removed. Hopefully it will fall off under it own torque. When you do this make sure the electrical terminals are covered so they won't touch the body when the starter falls off, and also only do very brief starter taps with the key until it comes loose (extended cranking may cause damage if the starter gets caught). If the starter gets wedged sideways at all, stop immediately since it can mess up your flex plate teeth.
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I am not sure which engine. It is the engine in which the bolts connect horizontally.

We took 2 bolts out of it though.
How should I hit it with the hammer? Towards the passenger side?

Sorry if my questions are pretty basic, this is my first time working on a car. I read that the starter job on my Taurus was easy so I figured I would try doing it myself and save some money.

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I am not sure which engine. It is the engine in which the bolts connect horizontally.

We took 2 bolts out of it though.
How should I hit it with the hammer? Towards the passenger side?
Just smacking it in any direction at all should cause enough shock to break any rust free. From what it sounds like, you have either missed a bolt or two, or there is another underlying problem that needs to be fixed. What is the reasoning for starter R&R in the first place?
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If the two bolts are going the same direction sounds like the OHV vulcan engine. So those two should be it.

Yes, tapping any direction is fine. It's the vibrations that count.

Was the engine free to crank before you started the repairs?
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Just smacking it in any direction at all should cause enough shock to break any rust free. From what it sounds like, you have either missed a bolt or two, or there is another underlying problem that needs to be fixed. What is the reasoning for starter R&R in the first place?
Car won't crank.

Had progressively worsening problems when trying to crank hot.
Eventually got to the point where it wouldn't crank at all (luckily while it was parked in my lot).

Now when I turn the key, I get nothing out of it. No response at all.
The battery is 6 months old and the lights and everything work full strength so we figured it wasn't that. The plan was to take the starter off and take it to AutoZone to get it tested.
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I had an oil leak ruin my starter... The shop said it was the first Taurus they had ever seen with a main seal leak.

If you have access to a DMM or something similar, check your battery voltage.
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Oil leaks onto the Vulcan starter is common. Happens ever time the oil is changed or the valve covers weep. Replaced a friend's 02 Vulcan starter because of this.

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I had an oil leak ruin my starter... The shop said it was the first Taurus they had ever seen with a main seal leak.

If you have access to a DMM or something similar, check your battery voltage.

Pretty sure mine has one as well.

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Oil leaks onto the Vulcan starter is common. Happens ever time the oil is changed or the valve covers weep. Replaced a friend's 02 Vulcan starter because of this.
This is precisely why I only bought my new starter from a local parts store and I made sure it had a lifetime warranty.

Get a cheap rebuild and odds are you will be replacing it again in short order.
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