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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-13-2018, 12:58 AM Thread Starter
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So after moving to the wild west, I've discovered there's way more rust free cars here than I could have ever imagined. So I found this one, and decided I wouldn't mind having a second car in case the Abarth goes down for whatever reason. The price was right, so meet Susan. She's a 2001 LS Premium. Silver Frost Metallic, black leather interior with a bench seat and column shift (unusual combo that I have never seen before), the mighty 24V Duratec, Keyless entry, automatic climate control, and autolamps. Oddly came without Mach audio or a sunroof, the latter being a good thing given its age, and the fomer something that will be rectified soon. Two owner car with 174K miles on it. Given the age and mileage she's in pretty good shape overall. Oil pan gasket needs attention, and one or more of the motor mounts is broken. Also needs some front suspension help. But it has been maintained at least somewhat over it's life time since the person I bought it from has owned it since 10K miles and wanted it to last. Transmission recently serviced with more to come soon. Shifts smooth and runs like a raped ape!
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-13-2018, 07:08 AM
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Congrats on the "new" Sable, and welcome back to TCCA!
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I am jealous! My silver frost 2001 Taurus will be heading to the scrap yard with 194k miles due to rust and corrosion. Yours looks in pretty good shape and rust free will make it easy to work on and worth putting money into.
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Congrats on the "new" Sable, and welcome back to TCCA!
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I am jealous! My silver frost 2001 Taurus will be heading to the scrap yard with 194k miles due to rust and corrosion. Yours looks in pretty good shape and rust free will make it easy to work on and worth putting money into.
Rust is just no fun to deal with. This one isn't entirely rust free, it spent some time in Minnesota early in its life and they do use salt here in northern Utah. But they do it so much less frequently than they do back east, that cars last WAY longer. I was amazed at how clean the underside was after 17 years of "normal" ownership where the owner isn't doing anything to stop corrosion. Floors are flawless, rear suspension cradle has no rust at all, and the most common spot, the pinch weld/rocker panel, only has just started rusting. There's also the beginnings in one of the rear doglegs, but it's all pretty minor. It has less rust overall than my old car did, and that one came from Florida and only went through a few Ohio winters. Go figure.

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Thanks Gerry. I'm pretty happy with it for what it is
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Time for a few updates. I have some goodies in stock, and some others on the way still. I had to redo my oil pan gasket again because I didn't realize that the RTV I was using needs to sit for an hour before you can torque it down. I also found out that the oil pressure sending unit/switch was leaking. That will get replaced once I take the Vulcan one they gave me despite mentioning multiple times this is an engine code S car. It's definitely annoying accessing that, you can only get like a quarter turn at a time with a box wrench. Also got a chance to look over the car some more. Definitely needs control arms (which I have) because the bushings are shot. The Ball joints look relatively new though, so we'll see how good they are. If they're already getting sloppy I have some Motorcraft ones to drop in. Inner CV boot on the drivers side is slinging a bit of grease despite the boot not being torn (it's coming out of the seam where it's supposed to go over the end), so that will need addressing eventually. Also a VERY slight water drip from somewhere in the water pump area, although I can't see any water accumulation on the pump area itself. One of the slowest leaks I've ever seen, so unless it decides to get worse I probably won't be able to find it easily. The front struts are Gabriel replacements, but I have no idea how many miles are on them. The front end still sits pretty high so I'll evaluate them once I get the rest of the suspension up to snuff.
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Felt like doing some stuff. Had to replace the bank 2 downstream 02 sensor because it was showing a constant 0.0V no matter what. Possibly got damaged when I dropped the Y-pipe, who knows. I don't remember anything actually rough happening but the sensor was very old, so anything could have caused it. Ruled out a wiring issue. Was logging data today so I can get an emissions sticker for the car and finally get my plates. The bank 2 cat definitely isn't doing as nice of a job as the other one, but it's acceptable. No codes so far. Need to drive it more to ready all the monitors. LTFT's on bank 1 and 2 looked good, around 9 and 10% for both. Not the ideal 5% but nothing to be overly concerned about for now. The only thing that's odd is that the car's temperature target seems to be 100C/212F. It always sits there and the radiator fan runs on low, A/C on or not. Not sure if the thermostat in there is the wrong one or what. Investigation warranted.

New eyes installed, the other ones were hideous. Also upgraded the bulbs to Sylvania Xtravisions. I also had the fun of the 3 year old NeverStart battery that was in there being dead when I went to move the car this morning, so that got replaced with a SuperStart from Oreilly's. Surprising how few group 36R batteries are around locally anymore. AAP had nothing at all. But I feel better about having a new one anyway, it's been in the teens and 20's here lately.
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Why silicone on the pan gasket? What brand needs to sit for an hour? Maybe the cold temperatures are to blame.
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Why silicone on the pan gasket? What brand needs to sit for an hour? Maybe the cold temperatures are to blame.
Theres a block split where the timing cover meets the block. You need sealant there, the oil pan gasket isnt enough by itself. And I was using Permatex black. The cold temp definitely didnt help, but even in normal temps you need to wait an hour before torquing it down.


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Theres a block split where the timing cover meets the block. You need sealant there, the oil pan gasket isnt enough by itself. And I was using Permatex black. The cold temp definitely didnt help, but even in normal temps you need to wait an hour before torquing it down.
This ^^. Coming from someone who did the pan gasket I can respect the pain it is Let me ask you this..... when you dropped the pan, did you see any globs of said sealant in the bottom of the pan or the pickup tube? I did with mine.
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