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R&R Inner Tire Rod Ends ... Difficulty?

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95 GL wagon, 3.8L

Took it in for a leaking tire. They do a general safety check and find both inner tie rod ends are bad. Front end has been handling odd so I believe them. Thought it was an alignment, but they can't do that with the bad parts.

They quote $50 for parts and $100 for labor for each side.

I have the servive manuals and will be reading up on this. But in the meantime, how hard is this for someone who has never done it? Are any special tools required?
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Outer tie rods? 2 wrenchs, a measuring tape, and a pickle fork, Pipe wrench if the shaft is rusted

Normal stuff (raise car, jack stand, take tire off)
Measure distance from inner tie rod to outer tie rod nut where it goes into the strut
Loosen inside locking nut on outer tie rod (2 wrenchs will be needed)
And the threaded length, there should be 2 flat spot that you can get the wrenchs on to break loose the threaded length from the outer tie rod
One broken loose, unbolt outer tie rod from strut knuckle
Use pickle fork to separate the tie rod from knuckle
Thread off old outer tie rod

Reinstall in the reverse order using the measurement to get a close approximation for the tie rod.

I think thats about it.. I cant remember anything else, but as sick as I am currently, I may have.

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Not tool difficult. You need to rent or buy a special deep well socket to remove and install. You also need replacement clamps or ty wraps to hold the boot after replacement. You jack up and secure the side of the car you are working on and remove the tire. You pop the outer tierod joint loose and unscrew it from the inner joint and remove the boot after popping the holding clamp. With the deepwell socket you slide it over the inner tie rod and unscrew it. Install in reverse. Plenty of videos on line.



I pop the outer tie rod by backing the nut out to the end of the threads of the stud and place a bottle jack under the nut and put force on the nut. If it doesn't pop then I hit the knuckle were the stud connects to with two hammers.




$150 is really not to bad if they are using quality parts. Figure $60 for two Moog joints and then the alignment.
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Outer tie rods?.

Inner. Don't know if the outers need it also or not.
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$150 is really not to bad if they are using quality parts. Figure $60 for two Moog joints and then the alignment.

That's each. I don't know what parts they'd use. Quote shows 'EV127' but that may be their own internal number.
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150 per side for inner? I would let the shop do it...

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^^ That's what I'm trying to get a feel for. Money is slim at the moment and I have a house roof repair that's more important.
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After removing the cotter pin/castle nut, I prefer popping the outer end from the knuckle with a pitman/gear puller to avoid destroying boots or cracking the aluminum knuckle/spindle. You can rent the inner tierod tool set for free (with a deposit) from most parts stores or buy it for cheap at Harbor Freight Tools. Same with the pitman arm puller.

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That's each. I don't know what parts they'd use. Quote shows 'EV127' but that may be their own internal number.

That's too much in my book per side. Figure two hours max per side. Pretty easy access and only issue I had on my 90 and 93 is they used rivets to hold the joint from rotating and loosening. They were aluminum but you had to break them loose, so I used an impact wrench but a breaker bar will work also. I believe I used loctite to reinstall them. The other thing to pay attention to is the 1/4 tube that vents one bellows to the other so no dirts get into them. Don't let that fall loose because it is only held in place by the bellows.




I attached a good You Tube link on the subject.


https://youtu.be/WJryEwp86pw
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^+1. That's the "realfixesrealfast" guys. They're the ones that made the most excellent "heater core shortcut" video. 1AAuto also has a nice inner tierod tutorial video I recently watched.
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