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QUOTE (Racer X @ Sep 30 2009, 07:36 PM)
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That's it, where's Fonz?

We BOTH were commenting on the smoke coming off of your pads man! I'm sure they were doing just fine performance-wise, but they were definitely smoking.

Unless that was the other LGT Wagon on the track that day... [/b]
????? Whatever......

I have smoked the same pads at Grattan in '07 and at Pacific Raceway in '08, but NHMS was a walk in the park for brakes.
And even then, I lost no braking power, the pedal just got softer near then end of the session. Same as it does at Gingerman.

If you say you saw smoke off my pads at NHMS, you might want to get your eyes checked. My brake pedal didn't even get soft on that track. That was a very easy track for brakes.

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QUOTE (Ron Porter @ Sep 30 2009, 09:07 PM)
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QUOTE (Racer X @ Sep 30 2009, 07:36 PM)
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That's it, where's Fonz?

We BOTH were commenting on the smoke coming off of your pads man! I'm sure they were doing just fine performance-wise, but they were definitely smoking.

Unless that was the other LGT Wagon on the track that day... [/b]
????? Whatever......

I have smoked the same pads at Grattan in '07 and at Pacific Raceway in '08, but NHMS was a walk in the park for brakes.
And even then, I lost no braking power, the pedal just got softer near then end of the session. Same as it does at Gingerman.

If you say you saw smoke off my pads at NHMS, you might want to get your eyes checked. My brake pedal didn't even get soft on that track. That was a very easy track for brakes.
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Whoa, easy cowboy! No need to get up in arms! No one's looking for a fight.

The EBC Yellowstuff's, while not a dedicated track pad, are more than capable on the track, and more importantly off the track. That's why I choose them again.

My eyes are just fine, your brakes clearly held up fine, so no harm no foul.

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Isn't it possible for pads to give off some smoke during heavy use without a loss of braking performance? IMO, GingerMan was a harder course on my tires than on the brakes, mostly because I wasn't giving it very much of the left pedal out there; just taking each of the corners as fast as possible without breaking the tires loose. Although I did do that a few times. Probably part of the reason that my Conti's were all toast at 49k.
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QUOTE (Brian_05_SEL @ Oct 1 2009, 12:47 AM)
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Isn't it possible for pads to give off some smoke during heavy use without a loss of braking performance? IMO, GingerMan was a harder course on my tires than on the brakes, mostly because I wasn't giving it very much of the left pedal out there; just taking each of the corners as fast as possible without breaking the tires loose. Although I did do that a few times. Probably part of the reason that my Conti's were all toast at 49k. [/b]
Oh, sure. Smoke is no indication of braking performance. Try PFCM pads some time. They smoke like crazy, but still work. Stock Ford pads won't smoke, but you could have the pedal to the floor as you plow off track.

Different pads work for different folks, but as you have more power and/or better tires, your brake requirements go up.

Or, if you drive your brakes as you do on the street, and spend too much time on the pedal. Remember hard and short, not soft and long.

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So are we all going to Gingerman next year? I've got a Grand Prix that is dying to get out there.

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I remember getting a mass e-mail that Jason sent out last month asking for feedback re: holding a 2010 GingerMan track event. Everybody should respond "hell, yes". Let's try and get a better turnout then there was at last spring's event; just a dozen or so people, and only three were actually from TCCA. That's just considering that it was the TCCA staff who arranged it all.



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<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">Oh hell yeah, I'd do that. I love to drive fast but am now obeying posted limits, so this could be major fun. (Just don't tell the people at my AARP driving class about me doing this ! ROFL) </span>

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Gingerman sounds like fun to me. I would love to try the IRS out there. I like the changes in the track configuration.

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