Qwertz9586
Jul 16 2005, 10:36 PM
Can anyone verify if the gear ratio information below is correct? Some of the final gear ratios vary a lot by different sources.
MTX-IV (SHO)
1st: 3.21
2nd: 2.09
3rd: 1.38
4th: 1.02
5th: 0.74
Rev: 3.79
Fin: 3.74
AXOD / AXOD-E / AX4S / AX4N
1st: 2.771
2nd: 1.543
3rd: 1.000
4th: 0.694
Rev: 2.263
AXOD Fin: 3.37
AX4S Fin: 4.10 3.67 3.55 (varies by source)
AX4N Fin: 3.96 3.99 (varies by source)
V8 fin: 3.77
3-spd ATX
1st: 2.84
2nd: 1.54
3rd: 1.00
Rev: 1.97
Fin: 3.23
5-spd MTX-III (anyone happen to know reverse gear?)
1st: 3.60
2nd: 2.12
3rd: 1.39
4th: 1.02
5th: 0.77
Fin: 3.33
Trans Codes:
A = MTX IV
L = AX4S (1995+)
T = AXODE
X = AX4N
Also, does anyone happen to know for sure if the 2.5L I4 uses a chain or belt? IIRC pushrod engines usually come with a chain. And does anyone know if that motor is an interference motor?
EDIII
Jul 17 2005, 07:23 AM
Didn't Gen III SHOs have a different final drive? Might be the reason for the difference in the AX4N final drives...
mikehawk
Jul 17 2005, 10:40 AM
Yeah, that's why he wrote a different final drive for the v8.
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AX4N Fin: 3.96 3.99 (varies by source) V8 fin: 3.77
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I've also heard 3:98 final drive for v6 ax4n.
Qwertz9586
Jul 17 2005, 09:25 PM
Do you think that the Vulcan, Duratec, and Essex have different final drive ratios?
Nidan
Jul 17 2005, 10:17 PM
The 2.5L uses a timing chain.. can't remember if it's interference or not tho.. sorry.
silvapain
Jul 18 2005, 12:58 AM
| QUOTE (mikehawk @ Jul 17 2005, 10:40 AM) |
Yeah, that's why he wrote a different final drive for the v8.
| QUOTE | AX4N Fin: 3.96 3.99 (varies by source) V8 fin: 3.77
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I've also heard 3:98 final drive for v6 ax4n.
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The V6 AX4N had the 3.98 final. Paul Nimz put Duratec gears in his SHO tranny. Talk to him about it.
SHOZ123
Jul 18 2005, 04:32 PM
Actually the AX4N Taurus final drives are all the same at 3.77 IIRC. It is the other vehicles the AX4N that have the different final drive. The 3.98 that I have comes out of a '96 Windstar tranny.
Qwertz9586
Jul 18 2005, 07:27 PM
So does the po-po have a different drive ratio? I know the V6 SHO ATX has a different final drive ratio than the SLOs. Does anyone know which number that is?
SHOZ123
Aug 6 2006, 07:45 AM
| QUOTE (mikehawk @ Jul 17 2005, 10:40 AM) |
Yeah, that's why he wrote a different final drive for the v8.
| QUOTE | AX4N Fin: 3.96 3.99 (varies by source) V8 fin: 3.77
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I've also heard 3:98 final drive for v6 ax4n.
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The final drive on the SHO is 3.77. In '98 Ford put 3.98 and 3.77 in the Taurus. You have to look at your sticker on the door.
D Man
Aug 6 2006, 12:42 PM
which one does what for yuor car?
does the 3.77 give more top end than the 3.98 or is it the other way around?
does the 3.98 give better off the line performance than the 3.77 or is that the other way around??
I just checked both my 98s and they both have the 6R 3.98 gears. So I was just woundering which one does what.
SHOZ123
Aug 6 2006, 02:19 PM
Higher the number the greater torque multiplication, ie. higher rpms for same vehicle speed.
Davekcon
Aug 6 2006, 02:40 PM
so if my 97 has the 3.77, it wont accelerate as well as a 3.98?
I googled the crap out of this subject and everything I found confused me
rudedog
Aug 6 2006, 02:41 PM
uhhhh this may not be necessarily correct either...........
| QUOTE |
Qwertz9586 Posted: Jul 16 2005, 10:36 PM Report Post Trans Codes: A = MTX IV L = AX4S (1995+) T = AXODE X = AX4N |
My '93 has an L on the door.
97vulcan
Aug 6 2006, 11:43 PM
on my AX4N it says 3R, then below it it says UPC. Does this mean anything besides Universal Product Code on a box of cracker jacks?
Thanks
Adam
RoGuE
Aug 7 2006, 12:11 AM
What if it just says "R"...no number next to it? This is the best pic I have:
rudedog
Aug 7 2006, 12:50 AM
RoGuE
Aug 7 2006, 02:24 AM
| QUOTE (rudedog @ Aug 7 2006, 01:50 AM) |
that the full race equipped version of the Taurus, you know like the Accord Turbo-R. It neans you have the 4.11:1 |
OMG, I am so lucky. I am going out right now to beat some Mustangs and Corvettes! They will never know what hit them.
But really, isn't this a little odd?
A typo perhaps?
SHOZ123
Aug 7 2006, 06:49 AM
R= 3.77
Racer X
Aug 7 2006, 07:52 AM
Alex, just to add...
In 1991-1995, the 3.8L AX4S had a final drive of 3.19. The Police 3.8L AX4S had a final drive of 3.37
RoGuE
Aug 7 2006, 01:23 PM
| QUOTE (SHOZ123 @ Aug 7 2006, 07:49 AM) |
| R= 3.77 |
So I guess that in the build sheet Ford sent me, instead of 3.77 non-locking limited slip rear axle ratio they really ment the final drive being 3.77?
silvapain
Aug 7 2006, 01:30 PM
| QUOTE (RoGuE @ Aug 7 2006, 01:23 PM) |
| QUOTE (SHOZ123 @ Aug 7 2006, 07:49 AM) | | R= 3.77 |
So I guess that in the build sheet Ford sent me, instead of 3.77 non-locking limited slip rear axle ratio they really ment the final drive being 3.77?
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Yes. It's the FWD equivalent of the rear differential ratio.
silvapain
Aug 7 2006, 01:32 PM
| QUOTE (D Man @ Aug 6 2006, 12:42 PM) |
which one does what for your car? does the 3.77 give more top end than the 3.98 or is it the other way around? does the 3.98 give better off the line performance than the 3.77 or is that the other way around??
I just checked both my 98s and they both have the 6R 3.98 gears. So I was just woundering which one does what. |
To restate what Paul said in a different way;
The higher the final drive ratio, the better the off-the-line acelleration. The lower the final drive ratio, the higher the top speed.
Frankly, I don't get above 120MPH often, so I will be getting the 3.98 gears in my SHO soon.
Qwertz9586
Aug 9 2006, 01:23 AM
Wow, old topic. Anyways, I've already included many corrections on the transaxle pages over the last year, and I'll keep adding new stuff.
http://www.taurusclub.com/encyclopedia/Engine/Trans.html
TomJones76
Aug 9 2006, 09:49 AM
| QUOTE (Davekcon @ Aug 6 2006, 02:40 PM) |
so if my 97 has the 3.77, it wont accelerate as well as a 3.98?
I googled the crap out of this subject and everything I found confused me |
This topic isn't simple; depending on the gears in question, a lower gear may hurt or help performance in a given vehicle.
In the case of our cars, as you raise the "final gear ratio" in the tranny, your zero to 60 and quarter mile times go down and your acceleration goes up. At the same time, your highway gas mileage will tend to go down.
At a certain absurd point the performance equation will go the other way... if your tranny has to shift 3 times before you hit 55, you'll spend more time shifting than accelerating.
Check out the latest vehicle testing at this site:
http://www.nlectc.org/testing/vehicles.htmlNote the differences between the Crown Vic Police Interceptor with the 3.27 and 3.55 rear end ratios.
SHOZ123
Aug 9 2006, 10:16 AM
That depends on how well the tranny is set up too. My ATX will shift a lot faster than any manual. Maybe a 1/2 second total for both 1-2 and the 2-3 shifts.
Davekcon
Aug 9 2006, 11:22 AM
thanks tom. thinking about automatic transmissions makes me queasy
...but i always knew mine was faster
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