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colk
post Jun 17 2005, 02:20 AM
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Which dash kit do you guys recommend for the 05 taurus as their is the metra and the scoshe
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post Jun 17 2005, 07:31 AM
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I think you're going to get a split consensus on this one.

I have the Scosche kit in my '02 and it's decent; everything works and it doesn't look terribly cheap if you're not looking for something to complain about (and most like nobody but you will be looking to criticize your kit).

Lots of people like the Metra kit better, though.

I did a lot of searching and I think you will generally find the Scosche kit a bit cheaper than the Metra. I will say that if you can't find the Scosche on eBay (and you may not, they're hard to come by for the Gen4 if you don't want to wait for a while), then I would recommend ordering through Crutchfield, just because I don't think you'll find it cheaper than $60 and we know Crutchfield has excellent service. And, if by chance you decide to order a head unit from them, they will only charge $40 for the Scosche kit.
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post Jun 17 2005, 08:47 AM
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I've had horrible luck with Scosche kits. The one on my focus started going bad in about a year after I installed it. My ex-gf's protege has gone through 3 in about 4 months. The my taurus went through 2 in about 3 weeks. IMO, they look cheap and they're built cheap. Though some other ppl seem to have better luck with them than me.

I dumped the Schosche in my Taurus for a Metra, and I'm still on the first one ohmy.gif For the taurus, I think they look better and sturdier than the Schosche.
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post Jun 17 2005, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (feyd83 @ Jun 17 2005, 07:47 AM)
I've had horrible luck with Scosche kits. The one on my focus started going bad in about a year after I installed it. My ex-gf's protege has gone through 3 in about 4 months.  The my taurus went through 2 in about 3 weeks. IMO, they look cheap and they're built cheap. Though some other ppl seem to have better luck with them than me.

I dumped the Schosche in my Taurus for a Metra, and I'm still on the first one ohmy.gif For the taurus, I think they look better and sturdier than the Schosche.

Could you explain going through 2 in about three weeks?What is happening to them?

I haven't put one in my GenIV but I put one in my GenIII about 6 or 7 months ago and no problems.

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post Jun 17 2005, 10:06 AM
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IDK that you're going to be able to do anything with the radio unfortunatly. In 2004, Ford put a Passenger AirBag Off Indicator on the opposite side of your defrost button. They still have it in 2005 vehicles. Unless Brad or someone has figured out a way around that, you may potentially cause issues with your passenger airbag.
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post Jun 17 2005, 05:35 PM
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it isnt just the led
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Thats my dilemma. I have an '05 SE w/the manual climate controls but the wife likes the idea of a working airbag on her side. The nerve! I'm in the process of shopping for an aftermarket speakers/amp set up but will have to go without the aftermarket HU.

Since it looks like if us '04-'05 owners want a functioning passenger side airbag we have to keep the stock HU is there any advantage to wiring up the amp using a line out converter instead of going the line level/speaker level route?
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post Jun 17 2005, 10:15 PM
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It depends. If you wanna use a good line level converter, then it will sound better. If you are going to use a garbage Best Buy LOC then no.
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QUOTE (Twilight @ Jun 17 2005, 10:15 PM)
It depends. If you wanna use a good line level converter, then it will sound better. If you are going to use a garbage Best Buy LOC then no.

I was considering the Dave Navone LOC. If I go that route, how do I connect it all up? I'd be using a four channel amp to power all four speakers.
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post Jun 17 2005, 11:28 PM
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Yeah that should sound better than the speaker level inputs. You can usually get 2 chan or 4 chan LOCs. I dunno if that one comes in 4 channel, if it only comes in 2 you will need to get two of them. You could do it with one and then just get an RCA splitter but you will lose fader capability.
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hmm so theirs an actual circuit board??? hell i could route that somewhere else Im having issues getting the radio out the passenger side din key works fine but the driver side isnt budging plus I dont have passengers so I dont need a passenger airbag laugh.gif

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If your state has inspections you might fail since the airbag light will be on.
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nope i live in FL but the passenger airbag thing is an actual circuit board behind there ? I havent been able to remove the radio /climate controls yet because the left clips wont undo
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I have decided I am going to a ford dealership on monday and see if i can get a pin out of the wiring harnesses attached to the radio/climate controls panel It does look like the airbag is controled by something in the radio as when i unpluged the harness under the radio controller the airbag light came on when i started it
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QUOTE (mwt @ Jun 17 2005, 09:12 AM)
Could you explain going through 2 in about three weeks?What is happening to them?

I haven't put one in my GenIV but I put one in my GenIII about 6 or 7 months ago and no problems.

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The 2 plastic pieces that hold the factory retaining system snapped. The second one didn't even sit right to begin with....
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Does anyone know if it will be possible in the future to use an aftermarket radio in a 05 or is the airbag control module just not emulatiable, I am presuming that it is in the factory headunit because when i unplug that connect the airbag light goes on
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I was at a reputable installation business today to get a quote for my system. The owner called someone who he says develops aftermarket adapters and was told about two more months til one would be ready with the airbag sensor connector. I don't know how true that statement is as I heard it second hand but the owner of the shop has always done right by me. Needless to say he wants $220 for just the labor on 4 speakers and an amp. I will be attempting to do it myself (or at least the speakers).
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i guess ill keep my aftermarket headunit then for a while but a lot of the newer cars are really aftermarket unfriendly
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Actually, I have a 2004 model and i have figured a way around the airbag sensor light. In the newer cars they have to run a jumper wire with a resistor to bypass the sensor and give the computer full power. Therefor the computer reads as if the factory unit was still in. I have done much research on this, as i have wanted to install an aftermarket unit in my car. I now have it in and have had no problems with my airbag. Yes the passenger side will still work as the resistor completes the circuit. The dealer has run diagnostics on my car for other unrelated problems and has not come across any coded issues with the new aftermarket radio. If anyone is interested, i can set up a wired resistor and instructions for this. If interested please let me know...

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what kind of resister and did you still keep the light for passenger airbag off instructions would be great
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I used a 10k ohm resistor which completed the circuit that would be used with the factory head unit. I used a metra dash kit for a 2000- up taurus. No airbag light to come on except where guages are, however the resistor took care of that problem by completing the circuit. Works great and there is no need to mess with the factory circuit board.
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Which pins on the headunit connector did you tap and darn im going to have to buy the dash kit again
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O.K. I sent you the info on the Air Bag sensor mod... Remember, you still will have both airbags working, you just won't have the light. beat-chevy.gif
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does any one have pics of the 2 kits? is there any different placement of the radio/ ac controls?
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The difference in the two kits is that the metra is more plain looking and the schoshe has a cd pocket added under the radio... Controls are very similar... Both nice kits... Just depends if you want a cd holder or not... Also can only hold one cd in case..
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