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Well i think when i get time im going to remove the guage cluster and make sure the speedometer cable is properly connected, since thats what many people have told me to do first to try and fix the wobbling speedometer. im assuming just like any other cable, it may become loose. my panel doesnt have a tach, so i was wondering if it is possible to get a panel from the junkyard that has a tach and install it on mine, assuming the guts for a tach are already behind the panel and in the proper position?

eh im kind of new to this field, so dont assume i know anything! help me out here and post any tips/advice you feel might help.

i also dont have any torkbits, so what size/type do my dash screws use and where can i get a set of these for cheap?



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Two articles that will help:

http://www.tauruscarclub.com/wiki/index.ph...Cluster_Removal
http://www.tauruscarclub.com/wiki/index.ph...ng/Color_Change

They're Torx sockets. You'll need a T-25, T-27, and a T-30 socket. You can get it at anyplace that sells tools like Napa, Wal-Mart, AutoZone, or Sears. I recommend using a 1/4 inch drive rachet and an extension.

A tach is plug-and-play with your non-tach dash as long as you grab one from a '90-'95 Taurus or Sable. Just be aware that '90/'91 gauges light up greener than '92-'95 gauges (see below - speedometer from a '91, others from a '95).

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Also, I recommend you to lower your steering column and put the shift in 1 which makes things easier. I also recommend removing parts one by one instead of removing the whole cluster at once (like the pic below). Remove the clear plastic, then the black bezel, then the PRNDL, then the guages, and finally the white plastic that holds it all together.

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At first, it might take an hour, but once you do it, it'll probably take less than 10 minutes.


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well now i dont know if i would be able to put a tach in mine. using the picture of the cluster you posted, my temp guage is large and right where the tach is. the speedometer is in the same place. and my fuel meter is where your temp/fuel is in that pic. are there wires to move it around and mount different guages in different spots??? or is installing a tach in mine just not possible?

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Actually, you have to swap the whole cluster if you want the tach because like you said, the temp and fuel guages take up too much space as well as the lights being in a different arrangment. But the beauty is that if you want to keep your stock speedo, you can! Just swap everything else and pop your old speedo back in if you like!

This was the original cluster I bought at the junkyard for comaprison:
[img]http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/87066/fullsize/OriginalCopCluster.jpg' alt='' width='565' height='353' class='attach' />


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alright so for example the new cluster you got at the junkyard just has some wires in the back to plug in? and the speedometer cable im assuming.

how much should i expect to pay for a cluster (with a tach) from a gen2 taurus at a junk yard? i dont want to get ripped off. hopefully its not more that $100...


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i found these torx at autozone, are they any good? the price is right, im just wondering if they are crappy or wont fit everywhere i need them to.

http://www1.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?...7EGRN%7C%7Etrue

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You want to get a Torx socket for a ratchet. That way you can use the extension to get into hard to reach places. Just buy a cheap socket and ratchet set.

Or this would work too:
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?...pid=00947144000

Actually, the tach and non-tach clusters use the same two harnesses to get their info. Just plug them both in and the tach gets the signal.

I paid $10 for the cluster, but some will charge as high as $80 just for a SHO speedo. They generally run an average of $20-30 for a cluster at junkyard. Some places will charge higher for SHO parts because it's special, but most of the time they don't care.


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Do all SHOS have a calibrated cluster - or is that one out of a police car?


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alright sounds pretty easy. another quick question. If i found a digital guage cluster, would that even plug into the harness and work correctly?

and just for testing purposes, would my car or myself be harmed in any way if i were to take a few test drives with the instrument panel cover off?

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Do all SHOS have a calibrated cluster - or is that one out of a police car?
It's out of a police car.

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alright sounds pretty easy. another quick question. If i found a digital guage cluster, would that even plug into the harness and work correctly?
No. You need a new wiring harness and VSS with the digital cluster. Someone did a write-up on that and it's in the archives.

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and just for testing purposes, would my car or myself be harmed in any way if i were to take a few test drives with the instrument panel cover off?
No, it won't harm it at all! I actually drove around with the dash off and made passes at a speed reader (a trailer thing that tells you your speed) to calibrate my speedometer. When I got it right, I just drove home and put everything back together.


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i dont understand how you would be able to calibrate it. wouldnt you just set it at zero when the car is in park?

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