Performance Chip Q's

[zoomdaddy]

im looking to buy a performance chip for my 96 sable (3.0 vulcan) to maximize the modifications i already have.
Here is a list of what i've done:

CAI -Ramair
straight exhaust. (no cats)
torque strap, via DOGBone off of a later taurus.

i know the tire and wheel size makes a difference.
i have 225/45/17's

not realy big mods' but i know a chip can help boost my hp and torque.
would a chip be worth the money for my setup??
which chip should i get??

keep in mind. i want ALL OUT POWER + the stock config.

thnks.

[sable97]

if you are planning in putting a chip to your vulcan then I did recommend you to get the one from Alberto, which you can pm him for more info or go to his web site at American Motorsport. Many people around have this chip installed and it really makes your car different. All I can say his chip are worth the buck.

Frank

[zoomdaddy]

im curious as to how much of a difference the shifting will be with the chip.
will the car burn out with the chip?
just curious... to me the 300$ for the chip is alot of money. so i want to be sure its worth it.

[sable97]

Well his chip its very very good for that price. I think it has 3 programs or something like that for 87, 91, 93 octane thing. This chip really increase your mileage and make it better, will make your transmission shift smoother and faster. I heard from someone here they got it and they chirping the tires in 2nd & 3rd gear I think. It has a lot of features for our cars. Many people in here have this chip and all I've hearing from them great improvement in their cars and plus Alberto its a very nice guy to deal with. Actually I'll be getting this chip very very soon . In case you have questions just pm Alberto and he will be very glad to answer them for you. I have had seen a few chips for other cars and trust me this one its very worth the buck. I really recommend getting one.

Frank.

[bamf70]

I may be new here but I was reading and saw this so I had to put my .02 in. A chip when burned for just your ECM code and none of your mods is not worth spending $300 on. AT BEST it will make the car shift better and probably add a few whp only because of increased timing and fuel map changes for WOT. The claims by superchip/diablo/sct/autologic etc of 10% are just BS. My advice to you would be do all your mods. Then when you are done take the car to a dyno, put it on the rollers and let a tuner actually TUNE your car. On a NA application, it's still probably not worth doing, but you will at least see the most whp for your $. On my Mustang a dynotune added a giant 1rwhp to my peak hp BUT it did increase my average rwhp quite a bit.

Cliff Notes: Chips are a waste unless you NEED one......

[sable97]

Probably for you its a waste of time and money ... but actually for others people and who want to juice up their Taurus/Sable its not. Therefore, its very uncommon seeing a Taurus with a chip in it and beating some ass crap Hondas and ricers, or probably beating your Mustang. I respect your opinion but ... its worth the buck putting a chip in a Taurus.

Frank

[bamf70]

Originally posted by sable97@Aug 30 2004, 11:33 PM
Probably for you its a waste of time and money ... but actually for others people and who want to juice up their Taurus/Sable its not. Therefore, its very uncommon seeing a Taurus with a chip in it and beating some ass crap Hondas and ricers, or probably beating your Mustang. I respect your opinion but ... its worth the buck putting a chip in a Taurus.

Frank

Any mod you do should be looked at as cost/whp. It's much easier to make hp on my car than on a Taurus I'm sure, but $300/3-5 whp or $100/hp is NOT worth the trouble IMO.

[sable97]

Well of course there are more stuff for any type of Mustang. The Mustang its a sport car and by looking at the Taurus its not. Therefore thats why there aren't enough performance stuff for them. I agree its not worth wasting $300 or up for just adding a few horsepower. Some people here don't give a **** wasting that amount of money just to add 3-5hp. I probably don't know about car that much but I am pretty sure even the people who have cars hitting 9 sec they pay a few extra bucks just to add at least a few ponies. Although, those crap Hondas who put turbo in their car for $3000 or probably a little less just to add lets say 20hp. I consider a big waste of money. But seeing a turbocharged or supercharged Taurus/Sable then thats worth the buck because these cars are not usual to race. Therefore, I agree with you in one way and not in other point of view.

Frank

[bamf70]

Originally posted by sable97@Aug 30 2004, 11:49 PM
Well of course there are more stuff for any type of Mustang. The Mustang its a sport car and by looking at the Taurus its not. Therefore thats why there aren't enough performance stuff for them. I agree its not worth wasting $300 or up for just adding a few horsepower. Some people here don't give a **** wasting that amount of money just to add 3-5hp. I probably don't know about car that much but I am pretty sure even the people who have cars hitting 9 sec they pay a few extra bucks just to add at least a few ponies. Although, those crap Hondas who put turbo in their car for $3000 or probably a little less just to add lets say 20hp. I consider a big waste of money. But seeing a turbocharged or supercharged Taurus/Sable then thats worth the buck because these cars are not usual to race. Therefore, I agree with you in one way and not in other point of view.

Frank

To me it's all about the $. If a K&N is $40 and nets 2whp that's a hell of a lot better deal than 3-5 for 8x as much $. Oh and I know most people on here would never do this, but a small shot of N2O is the absolute best bang for the $. I would assume a 50-100 shot of something like NX (wet kit) would be in the $1000 range with all the needed safety pieces and if it puts down a solid 50-100 at the wheels that is some very good bang for the $. I would think a 50-75 shot would be the most you could run safely on the car, where I could push it to about 150 with a couple upgrades to my fuel system. Still that would be a GIANT leap forward and it would still be safe.

Making hp with bolt ons is the hard way, a power adder will ALWAYS be the easier way. I went NA because I like a challenge, but if I owned a Taurus, I would spray it and do some basic mods while adding things like a trans cooler to protect the car. But I'm a gearhead and live for this sh!t

[silvapain]

Originally posted by bamf70@Aug 30 2004, 07:39 PM
I may be new here but I was reading and saw this so I had to put my .02 in. A chip when burned for just your ECM code and none of your mods is not worth spending $300 on. AT BEST it will make the car shift better and probably add a few whp only because of increased timing and fuel map changes for WOT. The claims by superchip/diablo/sct/autologic etc of 10% are just BS. My advice to you would be do all your mods. Then when you are done take the car to a dyno, put it on the rollers and let a tuner actually TUNE your car. On a NA application, it's still probably not worth doing, but you will at least see the most whp for your $. On my Mustang a dynotune added a giant 1rwhp to my peak hp BUT it did increase my average rwhp quite a bit.

Cliff Notes: Chips are a waste unless you NEED one......

Spoken by someone who DOESN'T have a chip.


It's DEFINATELY worth it. Ask anyone (myself included) who purchased an AMS chip and they will state that it's the best mod they ever bought. End of story.