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Old 05-20-2013, 09:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hello everyone, hope you guys are having fun in the sum with the weather we're having.

i have a problem.
2005 taurus se 3.0 flex fuel

i recently been having my "check transmission" light on. actually now the "engine " light came on.
so i went to get the codes read.
p0715
p0717
p0718
p0733

i am having a slight jerk in the car when i switch between 1st and 2nd gear
slipping i think

i took it to a transmission shop where they read codes and said if not the sensor could b the wiring, didnt get to lift in in the air n check because they where pretty busy

i got 2 tss sensors from the junk yard n niether of them fixed the problem
i also checked my wiring for breaks.. i checked from sensor up until it gets wrapped up into a series of other wires.

so today i got a brand new tss sensor from the dealer... still no luck

any clue what my problem could be..


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P0715 - Input/Turbine Speed Sensor Circuit Malfunction
P0717 - Input/Turbine Speed Sensor Circuit No Signal
P0718 - Input/Turbine Speed Sensor Circuit Intermittent
P0733 - Gear 3 Incorrect ratio

Just FYI you realize the TSS is different than the VSS sensor right? Hopefully you're replacing the right sensor (the one on the driver's side of the transmission).

If you did replace the sensor then I agree it's probably wiring related. Both wires end up at the PCM so you really can't really do a whole lot of electrical checks with them. The gray/red wire on the sensor is shared with the TRS and VSS, so you might do a continuity check between the ISS and the VSS or TRS gray/red wire. The other dark green/white ISS wire runs straight to the PCM (pin 6).

If you don't do the electrical checks, you should at least do a through inspection of the wires. You will have to open up the harness to get a good look at the two wires for signs of damage.
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i seen there was 2 wires cumin off tss n n 2 cumin off the vss they match up so its 4 wires
then inside the harness the tss wires are wrapped together n branch off at 4 wires so its now 6 wires headed to pcm.. ik how far i should go i dont wanna mess up wires lol... im certain its a wire problem
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I would check circuit continuity between TSS and PCM while flexing the harness. Also look for shorts to ground in each wire while flexing the harness. TSS is a VR sensor (no moving parts) and very rarely fails.
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Ive read that it rarely goes out..think ima have to take this baby apart
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How would I know if the wire is damage if not broken or sheared off
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How would I know if the wire is damage if not broken or sheared off
If the wires feel unusually stiff then the wires are in need of attention because they have been exposed to too much heat, so if they feel very very stiff, or mushy or they look charred or melted then they need to be replaced, if you are worried about doing electrical work(like me) just do it one wire at a time and take it slow, its better to turn a 2 hour job into a 3 hour job by being careful than do it in two hours and have it blow up in your face.
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Thanks they do feel too ****ing stiff. . Thanks Sable 476
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Keep in mind that stiff wires aren't necessarily bad wires so don't assume that just because you have found a section of stiff wires that the problem will disappear. If you do check the wires and they all have continuity while flexing the harness like Jeff suggested then I would recommend looking at the resistances from one end of each wire to the other. A very stiff or very squishy wire will offer high resistance which could cause intermittent signal drop outs.


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