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Old 09-25-2009, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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6 to 7 quarts out, 12 quarts in....

Learn a lesson from this guy. Don't put 12 quarts in when you only drained 6 to 7 quarts....

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I decided to replace the tram filter on my 96 Taurus. It's the standard 3.0L 12V V6 model. On the bottom of the trammy pan, it says "AXOD METRIC" and has 17 pan bolts. After some problems locating the correct filter with gasket, I purchased a Pro-King FK-295 (ATC: 86011EA) from Advanced Auto Parts. The filter and gasket looked identical to the one that was on there. The owners's manual and the auto parts store indicated that you needed 12.25 quarts of transmission fluid. I purchased a case and an extra quart to top off.

I didn't really pay much attention to the amount of liquid I drained from the pan when I removed the filter. However, after I installed the new filter and gasket and added 12 quarts of fluid, the dip stick indicates a level way beyond where the cross hairs are. I added the new fluid through a long funnel into the tube where the dipstick goes (I assumed that was normal since I didn't see any other filler tube). I drove the car about 6 miles with start/stop and switched through all the gears several times. The dipstick was still way beyond and was wet a good way up the stick.

Is this a misprint or does anyone have any idea what the heck is going on?[/b]





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Old 09-26-2009, 12:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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And people wonder why there are so many complaints about AXOD/AX4S reliability... I wonder how many blown transaxles really happen because they were driven into the ground by geniuses like that?
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bah over fill is ok there a over flow hole on those so lol

it would have drained itself on the ground

and normally when you rebuilt you alway add a bit more into the tranny when you rebuilt a ford lol but not 7 qtr
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Yeah dropping the pan doesn't get all 12 quarts out.
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JESUS 12?? I only put 5 into mine when i changed my filter/gasket and it was at the top of the mesh
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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JESUS 12?? I only put 5 into mine when i changed my filter/gasket and it was at the top of the mesh[/b]
The entire capacity of the transmission is around 12 quarts. If you remove the transmission pan, not all is going to come out.
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People can amaze me. Your average Joe would never even attempt to change his own transmission fluid and filter.
I'd assume that anyone who would change his own filter and fluid, would be smart enough to find out how to do it correctly.
I always forget about the people foolish enough to do it.


My last pan drop took 8 quarts to top it off. Holds 13.7 on my 2000 Sable. Just saying.
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I think the ax4s has a lower capacity than ax4n
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I think the ax4s has a lower capacity than ax4n[/b]
Yup, it does.

All he really needs to do is disconnect a cooler line, put it in a bucket and start the engine. Let it pump some of it out and top it off...job done.

I can understand how he made the mistake...the manual doesn't list a capacity for just the pan, only for the entire system. Still...it's not too hard to tell that what came out wasn't 12 quarts.
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You would think he knew that 12 quarts did not come out of the pan.... I hope no one here ever does that.

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