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Old 10-03-2011, 09:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have an '05 Sable which has only 32,000 miles on it. It was given to us by my grandparents and had only 23,400 on it when we got it 1.5 years ago. Literally one of those little old lady on Sunday cars. It has been meticulously cared for by both myself and grandfather before me, complete service records, etc. As you can see I haven't even put 10K on it since I got it.

Anyhow, for the last couple weeks now, when I start it, I hear a slight ticking from the engine. I have done some looking around online and found a TSB http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/fo...gine_noise.pdf

I think this may describe what I am experiencing but I am completely unsure. I'm honestly more of a computer guy than a car guy so I am asking here.

Is it a lot to worry about? Wouldn't it be uncommon for a vehicle in such good shape and with such low miles to experience it?

I am sure that my vehicle is one of the ones that can be affected by this.
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i would use a mechanics stethoscope to determine where the noise is coming from. ( a long screwdriver will work also )
check the oil and make sure its between the min and max line on the stick.
is the noise just on start up and goes away once its warms up or is it constant?
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It seems to subside once warmed a bit from what i can tell. I typically hear it on cold starts only. It did not make any abnormal sound this morning from what I could tell.

I just moved it from the street to my driveway to vacuum and wipe down the interior and back to the street and I did not hear anything abnormal so it does not do it every time.

Oil and all other fluids are good. Just had an oil change about 2 weeks ago as well.
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did this start after the oil change?
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To follow up on Bigdoggs question, what brand of oil filter was used when the oil was changed? What weight oil was used?
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My 05 sable with a duratec has a noise lifter. The car had the problem when I bought several year ago. I unlike the OP, run lots of miles on mine. I have tried solvents and different weights of oil but have not been able to make it stop ticking on startup. It pumps up after a minute or two, and runs fine. So far it has not hurt any thing.
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To answer all questions:
It did not start after the oil change. I remember hearing it before that. I had the oil change done at a local NTB. Guys who have done lots of work for me and friends as well and never had an issue. I like the shop because even though they are a national chain the guys who work there are all very friendly, seem knowledgeable and are all motorheads. When I wait for service all they talk about it what they're doing to their own cars, their buddies cars, etc.

Oil change was 5-20w as suggested. Pennzoil as far as I know. Not sure on filter, can't get a good look at it beyond the fact that it's white (which I know is not descriptive) and I have no way of lifting the car.
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My 05 sable with a duratec has a noise lifter. The car had the problem when I bought several year ago. I unlike the OP, run lots of miles on mine. I have tried solvents and different weights of oil but have not been able to make it stop ticking on startup. It pumps up after a minute or two, and runs fine. So far it has not hurt any thing.
A lifter tick can last the life of the engine with no damage. Cosmetic if it is not too loud.

Off topic a tick but my Lin Cont had a tick that could be heard inside and passenger could hear it. I took it in and complained. The re-did the seal around the steering column where it went through the firewall. They said it was not installed correctly at the factory. Charged Ford 3/4hr labor.

Strange things happen.

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Typically in a situation like this the elderly owner changed the oil based on mileage with no consideration to time. Unfortunately infrequent short trips cause oil to break down and create varnish on engine surfaces. I would run a half can of Seafoam for a day before your next oil change, it works wonders on stuck lifters.
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