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Old 12-29-2009, 09:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i have a friend with a3.0 taurus, not sure what year i think 98. said that they have a massive coolant leak. coming from the rear of the engine. they took it to a mechanic and the guy quoted them $1000 to replace a freeze plug because he says he has to drop the transmission to replace the freeze plug. he told them the freeze plug thats leaking is inside the bell housing.???? on the 3.0, is there really a freeze plug inside the bell housing??? this sounds strange to me.


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Old 12-30-2009, 12:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah - I thought it was strange, too, when the same thing happened to my Dad's '97 GL 3.0 Vulcan a few years ago. His mechanic did not properly maintain the cooling system, it sludged up inside, a freeze plug rusted out near the power steering pump ($90 to fix), then later came the gushing leak similar to what you've described and he was told another plug had rusted out behind the tranny. Cost him $700 to fix it and he dumped the car right afterwards, disgusted with Fords. Another example of how bad servicing can ruin a manufacturer's good name. Yes - these cooling systems can rust up on you, but if you stay on top of it with flushes and refills, you can avoid a $700 bill to replace a $5 part.

I'd shop around and see if you can get a lower number to do this job. And I'd make sure the right plug gets installed. A lot of times the rubber plugs are installed (because they're easier to install, I think). Don't know if they last as long as the metal ones from the factory, or if you should even install a rubber plug in this location.

If this happened to me, I'd be tempted to try fixing it myself - seems like you'd just have to lower the tranny enough to expose the plug, but maybe just doing that is difficult for a home mechanic?
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That's it - the red circle? I thought we were talking about plugs that look like those two larger silver circles - but on the block (behind the cover).

I've looked through my '97 Ford manual and cannot find a diagram that shows where all the block plugs are. I've looked in the Engine and Transmission sections. Does anybody know where it is? There IS a discussion of the block plugs on page 03-00-20 (Engine section), but this just covers the types and install procedures. I'd like to see a picture of the block showing all the plugs, but I don't see it...
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The red circle shows a dowel pin. The two large silver colored circles (one on each side of the block) are the 2 rear freeze plugs.
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Exactly, the red circle is a locator for the transmission. This was the only pic I had that showed the entire rear of the engine. So sue me. As for the rest of the block, there are two on either side and the two shown.
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Here's another pic if you guys didn't like that one LOL. Note tranny removed.

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Here's another pic if you guys didn't like that one LOL. Note tranny removed.

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thank you guys s much for your help, i will take a look at her car and hopefully its a plug on the outside of the engine
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You don't like it, pm ME. I certainly didn't see YOU post anything to help the man.
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