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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 01-14-2016, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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Which shocks are really firmer?

I have always heard people say that the 4th gen struts are firmer than the 3rd gen ones, and that if you want a firmer ride and more control on your Gen 3 Taurus then it's recommended to use the Gen 4s. I have also heard that the same thing applies to shocks that are used on the rear of the wagons, meaning that the Gen 4 shocks are firmer. But then I heard some people claim the opposite. I am confused. I think I recall that in one thread, one person said he contacted KYB and they told him the Gen 3 ones were firmer, and one person said KYB told him the Gen 4 ones were firmer. Can we have a confirmation please once and for all?

More specifically, I put Motorcraft Gen 4 struts on the front of my 99 Sable wagon (which is Gen 3) with KYB springs, and I was happy with the handling. Then, I put Gen 3 Motorcraft shocks on the back (with Moog cargo springs) and now the car feels much bouncier and kind of floats like a boat, so I'm wondering if maybe now the front is firmer than the back and making that happen? I'm not happy with those shocks in the back, and I'm thinking of switching them for KYB Gas-A-Just but now I'm not sure if they should be Gen 3 or Gen 4, can someone help me out with this?

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I'm happy with the KYB Gas-A-Justs and Moog cargo coil springs on the rear of my wagon. My KYBs are Gen 4s. I also have Gen 3 springs and Gen 4 KYB struts on the front. I'm very happy with the overall ride and handling. Firm, but not harsh.

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Cool thanks. But I guess your vehicle is actually a Gen 4...not that it really matters
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What do you guys think about my theory for the bounciness? Or is it just possibly that the Motorcraft rear shocks aren't too great?
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When I tried to get confirmation of which KYB struts where stiffer some time back, there tech dept said gen 3 struts were stiffer than gen4, contrary to what I had seen posted.
It's like that KYB shocks are stiffer than Motorcraft which would work better with stiffer cargo springs.
Stiffer springs need stiffer shocks/struts. It's a matter of physics. This is why I called the KYB tech dept months ago.
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Thanks thats good to know. Do you think that means that everyone who says that Gen 4 struts are firmer are mistaken or is it just that KYB shocks specifically are firmer for Gen4? Because it would be weird if everyone was mistaken about this in general, as presumably this is something that can be felt by the driver?
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In my experience KYB struts/shocks are valved stiffer than other brands, especially Monroe with a better compression to rebound balance too.
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I have new KYB struts on my station wagon. Feels like a brand new sports car to me.


I have a test spot on the road - it's on a 35mph road after a train line passage on my way back from work. On the other side is an asphalted dip full of scrape lines from cars hitting the bottom. With my older struts, I had to go with 25mpg not to scrape. Now I do 40mph and still nothing - what an adrenaline rush!! I still cringe at that spot

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I've got KYB all around. Definitely stiffer than stock, but a nice handling upgrade. The rears have about 10k on them, the fronts 1k.

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