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Old 01-06-2013, 07:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just replaced front pads on my 02 Bull a few years back. ! This is just a FYI and a reminder to all that already know this. DO NOT REINSTALL YOUR LUG NUTS WITH AN IMPACT WRENCH,, run those suckers up by hand as far as you can, then lower your jack/lifting device down to make enough contact to where you can properly torque your lug nuts. A few years back i was having back trouble and could not rotate my own tires. Took my car to Wal Mart to get them rotated. So that was done with and a few miles later i noticed my front end shaking violently when applying the brakes. They (Walmart) warped my front rotors by using a impact wrench when putting my tires on. Alot of tire shops do this just to get you in and out quickly to make more money !! I just had to post this because it pisses me off to no end when someone does'nt follow the correct "path" when repairing someone elses property. My back is a little better nowadays, and from here on out i am rotating my own. I know i told you i was pissed off to no end,,,,,,,,, but i am just trying to save someone some money !! Thank You for reading my "vent" post............lol
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Not if you do it right. that's all we use at my job is an impact wrench to tighten lugnuts. I don't sit there and hold the trigger for several seconds, I just do a quick zip and let off after 1/2 second when it hits the wheel. then when all are on, I go back and do a 1/2 second trigger pull on each lugnut to snug them down. I never have any trouble getting them back off next time the vehicle come back in for service

And I've never heard of rotors warping by over tightened lugnuts. Usually the studs break before anything else happens
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But, Silver Sable ! There are not alot of mechanics that always do things right. Yes you can warp your rotors, after i had that incident @ w.mart i checked both rotors for trueness, and they were not even close !! replaced my rotors and no more vibration,,,,, it never even had a vibration in it when i took it there, afterwards it did. So if my new rotors took out the vibration,,,,,,, and you say you have never heard of rotors warping,,, what was it ?
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With the Wal-Mart "techs", who knows what they did. Those guys are just idiots off the street or probably shoppers they just handed applications to. You should NEVER go to Wal-Mart for auto services. I work at a Ford dealership, where we don't intentionally do things so people have to spend more money and our guys are certified and know how to fix a car.

I've heard of rotors warping, but not by over tightening the lugnuts. I've mainly seen them warp due to people constantly riding the brakes or the pads heating up, causing the rotors heat up, and that will cause them to warp. also, pad slapping (throwing on new pads without resurfacing the rotors) when doing a brake job can also cause it, as well with calipers that stick
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After I have any tire work done I always remove and re torque my wheels to proper spec when I get home. Takes 10mins. If my cordless impact wrench can't get the lug off, they tightened it too much.


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@breeves yeah i'm a little OCD when it comes to torqueing wheels and other certain items. I was a CH47D "Chinook" helicopter crew member for 11yrs and 90% of our bolts and such are safety wired to where they wont come loose during flight. hmmmmm got me thinking, i think i'll go out tommorrow and do some safety wiring......... nah ! Thats way out there OCD........lol
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@98 silver sable , well i did need them rotated, and i picked the wrong place. I figured they could handle it, but was proven wrong,,,, as far as the rotors go, i usually replace them with the pads. I know its not necessary to replace your rotors, but i like that warm and fuzzy feeling, knowing i have new pads/new rotors
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Last time I bought tires for my Fusion three different guys warned me that my lug nuts were so beat up that I might not be able to remove them in the field if I had a flat tire. I told them to stop beating the crap out of the nuts with their zip guns.
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I purchased my Michelins at a wholesale club called BJ's (don't ask me why they picked those two letters...I wouldn't have). They have a deal where you pay $15 per tire for lifetime rotation...flat repair...balancing etc. They always torque the lug nuts with a torque wrench. I then re check them about a couple weeks later.

I did have an issue where the lug nuts kept coming loose when they torqued them. Almost lost a front wheel once. Then I replaced both front hubs/wheel bearings and now they stay tight. I do have a mechanic that uses an impact air wrench that has done some front end work, though.
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And I've never heard of rotors warping by over tightened lugnuts. studs break
I am surprised that you've never heard of this. Well, not this specifically but years ago (and it has been re-enforced several dozen times that lugnuts should always be torqued with a torque wrench to prevent them from warping due to uneven tightening....not sure if uneven tightening is a large problem, but we have not experienced any warped rotors since I've started using a torque wrench on the lug nuts and checking them periodical. There must be some reason for the manufacturers to put torque specs on the lug nuts....
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