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Old 08-21-2008, 08:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I just went through this, here are some lessons learned: (2002)

I was able to replace the passenger side using the above procedure, and did not need to drop the lower ball joint but did disconnect the tie rod end. Note the ABS car has a what looks like a gear around the axel, and that makes it almost impossible to get to that top nut. I used a long extention, and a hinged adapter at the socket. I had no idea how easy it was to disconnect the tie rod with the tool shown, piece of cake. Had I know how easy it was, I would have done it from the start and not wasted so much time trying to be so smart with another solution.

I tried the same approach on the drivers side, not so much joy. I think the drivers side axel must be longer or something because I did not have the clearance to push the axel back enough. Let me share what happened. I pushed the axel back with the puller, and removed the lower two bolts. disconnected the tie rod, and pushed the axel back a bit more and was able to get the socket with extension on the the top bolt and remove it. The bearing was not budging so I tightend the puller a bit more and wham, the bearing seperated leaving the unbolted base in the wheel opening and launching the lug nut section the puller was attached to. It took a chisel to get the base piece out....so now reinstalling, I get the three bolts in, but the axel shaft is not centered in the hole, there is just no more play with the axel, and so I thought I could try and center the axel using the puller and wham, the new bearing explodes. So I just place the axel centered in the base, slide on the piece that exploded and tighten to spec the nut. The car seemed to ride ok, but not wanting to chance it I bought another bearing.

Ok, so this time, I drop the ball joint, again, so easy with the right tool. To seperate the ball joint stud from the lower control arm, I used a pry bar. On my 2002, there is a 3" or so diameter hole in the center of the lower control arm, I inserted the bar there, leveraged the arm down and had the clearance to seperate the stud from the lower arm. With the ball joint and tie rod free, the entire knuckle rotated out and I was able to fully remove the axel, and use a socket on all three bolts. Bolted up the bearing with confidence, slide the shaft in, bolted that in, put the whole thing back together and done.

Gentlemen, I have to tell you, I'm famous for cutting corners and trying to save time, but with this job, I cannot tell you how much quicker and more fun this job is when disconnecting the ball joint and tie rod end. Part of my problem was I never disconnected ball joints before and was fearful. Let me tell you, get the right tool and it is a piece of cake. I used a pitman arm puller on both joints...on the ball joint I had to bend the disc brake shield a bit out of the way to get the clearance to affix the puller.



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Old 08-27-2008, 07:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I did all my wheel bearings in Mid-summer. At 145K miles the front bearing were toast ('97 Sable). I believe the rear bearings may have had some life left as they appeared to be in good shape. I decided to replace them all.

Funny the front axle is 30mm socket and the rear axle is 35mm socket.
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Great write-up!

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This works great unless you have ABS brakes then it is impossible to remove the top bolt on the bearing. I had to remove the lower ball joint out of the control arm to get the CV shaft out to get at the top bolt.[/b]
Exactly how I did it. Former Ford tech who lives next door did his non-ABS car in less than 1/2 the time it took me (he helped out on my ABS-equipped car).

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My bearing was seized in so bad that the puller would not move it. I had to chisel between the bearing & knuckle with the puller applying pressure. It was a challenge getting the lower ball joint back into the control arm. I had to use a jack to slightly compress the strut & spring. Good Luck
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Same thing here. A few minutes with an air chisel finally broke it loose. I also used a jack to help get the ball joint into position - wow, this was like reading my own post!
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey it's me again. I have a good news and a bad news. Good news first

Thanks to Harvey's and jmoschetti45's instructions i decided to go ahead and change front left bearing assembly as I was suspecting that grinding noise is coming from there. This is what I had done.

I removed all wheel nuts and axle nut. Then I removed brakes, pads and disk. This was all easy. You only need 30mm socket for axle nut and breaker bar, just as Harvey described. Then I tried to remove hub assembly bolts but since I have ABS it was impossible to insert 15mm socket on the bolt because ABS gear is there. Then, I decided to remove tie rod but some small metal safety pin that is used to secure tier rod nut broke and I was not able to remove it. So, I decided to use jmoschetti45's method from there.

I started hammering axle in order to push her inside so I can insert socket on the bolt but I was not able to do that. Then I turned steering wheel all the way to the left (I was working on the left wheel) and hammered the axle again. This time axle went almost 15cm inside. I was able to put socket easily on all 3 bolts and to remove them. You can use puller to move axle inside as much as possible so you can work easier. Finally, all 3 bolts were removed. I was super happy, but... When I tried to remove hub he was stuck. Hub was rusted and I spent 1 hour hammering and at the end I managed to pull whole assembly out. I cleaned inside of the hub socket and installed hub without any problem.

Now a bad news.

After test drive grinding sound was still there so I bought another hub assembly and last weekend changed right hub. Procedure was exactly the same. And finally, after test drive sound was again there

Soooooooo, then in desperation I decided to swap front and rear tires and grinding sound was gone , or to be more precise, grinding sound moved to back of the car. So all this time I had a problem with tire or rim, not with hubs I was sure that sound like that one can't come from tire and that was a reason why I decided to change hubs before trying to swap front and back wheels.

Now, I must locate which tire is bad and buy at least 2 new tires.

Oh, I almost forgot. I bought wobble extension bar which helped a LOT when removing top hub nut. I strongly suggest buying this.

I want to thank you all once more for your comments and advices!
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WOW!!! WOW!!!! WHAT A THREAD!!!! THIS THREAD NEEDS TO BE PINNED!!!

Last year I purchased new front wheel bearings for my 99 Taurus with no ABS. This week, I purchased new ceramic pads along with new rotors because the car wobbled badly when applying the brakes. Soooo, heck, while I have the front wheels apart, why not go a step further and change the bearings with the new ones I purchased last year.

I struggled with the 15mm top bolt holding the hub, I got to be able to back it out about a 1/4" but that was all. I used a drill with a wire bush to clean the threads along with a lubricant but still could not get the top bolt out. I looked at how tightly the hub sat into the knuckle, almost looked as if it was sealed with an adhesive. STOP! Enough guessing and I went to my Ford CD for intructions. Ford claimed I needed to remove the knuckle along with the lower ball joint in order to remove the bearing. Well, I am not sure if the bearing noise I hear is from the front or the rear.....bad hearing. So I gave up on it.

This thread sure makes it clear what needs to be done to change the bearings although I do have some questions still.

I noticed from the pictures the bearing was freed from the knuckle using a puller. But others had trouilbe doing this because it pushed the CV shaft in. Can the CV shaft safely withstand the pressure needed to remove the bearing?

My next course of action is to determine where my noise is coming from before I attempt to make part changes. I do have the new front bearings so eventually they will get installed.

THANKS TO ALL WHO HAVE POSTED IN THIS THREAD!!!!



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My hub assembly was so badly stuck inside that I'm 100% sure puller would damage CS shaft, because of the pressure, if I tried to pull it out that way. I used chisel to remove bearing assembly and that was the only way I was comfortable with.
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Old 10-11-2008, 06:24 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I guess I got lucky. I didn't have to disconnect or remove anyting but the tire and brakes. I have an 01 Sable with ABS Loosen the lug nuts and 30mm shaft nut. Jacked both sides of the front tires to relieve pressure for turning the steering wheel. Once 30mm nut was off I simply tapped the shaft back into the hub. It works best to move it a half inch, rotate steering wheel full left and tap again, then full right and tap again. You don't have to start the car, just turn the ignition on. Just tap the shaft in far enough to get the bolts all the way free. (I used an old short jack handle over my socket wrench as my breaker bar and to ease the job, these bolts are strong!) Just turn your steering wheel left and right to get the best angle for your socket wrench set up for each of the 3 bolts. I never needed a a swivel either for the top bolt. The bearing actually eased out while loonening the bolts evenly without even using a puller, I expected an all day job but had it done in less that 2 hours. Again, I got lucky!
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Great post and excellent pics.
I have that noise but its only on a right turn. Still possibly bearings?
You had better pics than my manual and autozone.com
I think i will try the tire switcheroo 1st.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:07 AM   #19 (permalink)
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IN the autozone another way is shown. They remove the half-shaft, and have the third top bolt easiely accessable.
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Thanks for the write up. Looks like I will be changing the wheel bearing on my passenger side this weekend. This noise just started and I don't want it to get too bad.
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