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05-27-2004, 11:13 PM

Ok bought my car with the DEI remote start system on it and the only way it will work is if you leave a key in the ignition, is there a way to make it work without leaving the key in? I have the factory permiter alarm and factory chip in the key or something

2000 SEL

bco1206 · 05-28-2004, 12:17 AM

I've heard about this before. I'm not totally certain, but with the Ford PATS security system, now get this, the key need to be within a few inches of the key slot. Try the remote start with the key near the ignition swith but not in the slot. If that works, you may have to have a new PATS key made then, taped to your steering colum.

Sounds funny, I know.

My roommates a Ford Tech in Philly. I'll check with him and get back to you.

Xmann01 · 05-28-2004, 12:21 AM

They sell modules to bypass the factory system for remote start. Check your manufacturer's website for accessories and you should find one.

*edit*

I mean check the manufacturer of your alarm... just to clear up any confusion. They should have something.

madness_spirit · 05-28-2004, 12:21 AM

Do you know which module is in your car? Generally they are made to bypass the key so that they will start even without a pats key. So as long as the module is working properly and wired in correctly it should be working perfectly. Your best bet if you arent to great with electrical is just to take it to an electronics store that sells them. Either they will tell you how to fix it or you will pay them a bunch and it will work. But hey for all that money you can have the convenience of your car starting without even having to wait for the game to end. But generally speaking that is what all the DEI remote starters are made to do, piggy back your car alarm for the signal, and then the bypass is built in.

d_sellers1 · 05-29-2004, 06:18 PM

The PATS will refuse to start a car under any circumstances unless the key is "near" the ignition. This includes regular copied keys and remote starters. A friend of my made a copy of my key, not realizing the PATS. When testing the key, the car would not start and the THEFT light would flash real fast. It does, however, make a good back up to get into the car.

What you need is a remote start tranponder bypass. It just so happens that there is some on EBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...&category=48611

EDIT:
Here's the DEI 555F (as desrcibed below)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...5702288160&rd=1

Derek

baby sho · 05-29-2004, 06:28 PM

the dei parts number is 555U or if you have 2 keys for the car you can use a 555f or if your realy good, and have a 98+ you can use a 555p. Id reccomend the 555u ias it is the easiest and most reliable.

Brad

05-31-2004, 09:19 PM

how can I tell what system or model I have?

baby sho · 06-01-2004, 12:24 AM

does not matter the model of your alarm....but it will be printed on the brain.

Brad

06-02-2004, 06:10 AM

ok, the model that I have is the 552T just to tell you guys, they dont make them anymore but they have a:

Valet 562T Remote Start/Keyless Entry
"New and improved version of the best-selling Valet 552T."

05-28-2004, 12:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
bco1206 Junior Member Member Number: 2072 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Gloucester City, NJ Visit: My Garage Posts: 96 Trader Score: 0 reviews Rep Power: 0	I've heard about this before. I'm not totally certain, but with the Ford PATS security system, now get this, the key need to be within a few inches of the key slot. Try the remote start with the key near the ignition swith but not in the slot. If that works, you may have to have a new PATS key made then, taped to your steering colum. Sounds funny, I know. My roommates a Ford Tech in Philly. I'll check with him and get back to you. __________________ 2000 Taurus SEL. Black with Tan/Brown interior. JSP spoiler #79211. Mach audio system. Added amp, cap, and 12" ma audio sub. K&N filter with modified factory air box.

05-28-2004, 12:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
Xmann01 Devoted Member Member Number: 1195 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chicago Visit: My Garage Posts: 1,460 Trader Score: 0 reviews Rep Power: 0	They sell modules to bypass the factory system for remote start. Check your manufacturer's website for accessories and you should find one. edit I mean check the manufacturer of your alarm... just to clear up any confusion. They should have something. __________________

05-28-2004, 12:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
madness_spirit Member Member Number: 2980 Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Dakota Visit: My Garage Posts: 114 Trader Score: 0 reviews Rep Power: 0	Do you know which module is in your car? Generally they are made to bypass the key so that they will start even without a pats key. So as long as the module is working properly and wired in correctly it should be working perfectly. Your best bet if you arent to great with electrical is just to take it to an electronics store that sells them. Either they will tell you how to fix it or you will pay them a bunch and it will work. But hey for all that money you can have the convenience of your car starting without even having to wait for the game to end. But generally speaking that is what all the DEI remote starters are made to do, piggy back your car alarm for the signal, and then the bypass is built in. __________________ Look at my junker in progress http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php?...CODE=12&CID=199

05-29-2004, 06:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
d_sellers1 Member Member Number: 24 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Austin, Texas Visit: My Garage Posts: 314 Trader Score: 0 reviews Rep Power: 0	The PATS will refuse to start a car under any circumstances unless the key is "near" the ignition. This includes regular copied keys and remote starters. A friend of my made a copy of my key, not realizing the PATS. When testing the key, the car would not start and the THEFT light would flash real fast. It does, however, make a good back up to get into the car. What you need is a remote start tranponder bypass. It just so happens that there is some on EBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...&category=48611 EDIT: Here's the DEI 555F (as desrcibed below) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...5702288160&rd=1 Derek __________________ SuperFord.org Registry (Slowly adding pics) .:[=]:. SoundDomain Page (Coming up soon) My Yahoo Briefcase (Where most of my pics go.)

05-29-2004, 06:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
baby sho Devoted Member Member Number: 533 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Upstate, NY Visit: My Garage Posts: 2,111 Trader Score: 0 reviews Rep Power: 0	the dei parts number is 555U or if you have 2 keys for the car you can use a 555f or if your realy good, and have a 98+ you can use a 555p. Id reccomend the 555u ias it is the easiest and most reliable. Brad __________________ 99' Black Taurus SE - Project BABY SHO v.2 Window Automation, Sattelite Vehicle Control, Dropped SCT Micro Tuner/Flasher, 5-Speed Manual Tranny SHO Front/Rear Disk Upgrade/Conversion, Bias Bypass 4 Corner Rear SFB's, Modified Tail's, Cold Air Intake.... 98' Red E0 Contour SVT - Project SVT Tour' Pioneer Touch Screen Navigation / DVD, Infinity Speakers Borla Stainless Cat-Back, AEM True CAI, High Flow Y-Pipe 3L Hybrid w/ 3L Valves, Window Automation, Torsen LSD Adjustable Koni Sport Kit Suspension, 17" FSVT Wheels.... 97' F-150 Lariat - Project Tow(the)Sho Stock With All Options (Not For Long!)

05-27-2004, 11:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
YAHTEC Guest Member Number: Visit: My Garage Posts: n/a	Ok bought my car with the DEI remote start system on it and the only way it will work is if you leave a key in the ignition, is there a way to make it work without leaving the key in? I have the factory permiter alarm and factory chip in the key or something 2000 SEL

05-31-2004, 09:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
YAHTEC Guest Member Number: Visit: My Garage Posts: n/a	how can I tell what system or model I have?

06-01-2004, 12:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
baby sho Devoted Member Member Number: 533 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Upstate, NY Visit: My Garage Posts: 2,111 Trader Score: 0 reviews Rep Power: 0	does not matter the model of your alarm....but it will be printed on the brain. Brad __________________ 99' Black Taurus SE - Project BABY SHO v.2 Window Automation, Sattelite Vehicle Control, Dropped SCT Micro Tuner/Flasher, 5-Speed Manual Tranny SHO Front/Rear Disk Upgrade/Conversion, Bias Bypass 4 Corner Rear SFB's, Modified Tail's, Cold Air Intake.... 98' Red E0 Contour SVT - Project SVT Tour' Pioneer Touch Screen Navigation / DVD, Infinity Speakers Borla Stainless Cat-Back, AEM True CAI, High Flow Y-Pipe 3L Hybrid w/ 3L Valves, Window Automation, Torsen LSD Adjustable Koni Sport Kit Suspension, 17" FSVT Wheels.... 97' F-150 Lariat - Project Tow(the)Sho Stock With All Options (Not For Long!)

06-02-2004, 06:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
YAHTEC Guest Member Number: Visit: My Garage Posts: n/a	ok, the model that I have is the 552T just to tell you guys, they dont make them anymore but they have a: Valet 562T Remote Start/Keyless Entry "New and improved version of the best-selling Valet 552T."

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