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Old 11-28-2012, 11:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm starting to look for ways to upgrade the stock stereo in my '99 Sable wagon. The head unit is a no-brainer, I'm going after a low-end Pioneer unit and the Scosche kit. I've only had two Pioneer units over the years...that's because they've been awesome and I've saw no need to change.

As for the speakers, checking out these forums and elsewhere, I'm confused about my speaker options. Exactly what's gonna fit in the doors and tailgate of my wagon? It seems like every conceivable speaker size will fit, with varying opinions on complexity (6x9s bolt right in! No they won't get an adapter! Make your own adapter with plywood and chewing gum! 6.5s are better than 5x7s, but worse than 6x9s, but the 6x8s fit better, but so will--argh!). I don't want to spend much, just want better sound, maybe a bit of bass. I've had a combination of Sony X-plods in my Neon for almost 6 years now, and the 6x9s in the back and 6.5s in the front have been terrific for my needs.

So could anyone simplify things for me a little bit?
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The proper size is 6x8, no adapter needed. 5x7 will fit with an adapter that they sometimes come with.
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So it's 6x8s all around, yeah? How hard is it to put 6x9s in the tailgate?

I've noticed that 6x8s are a bit harder to find than other sizes. What would the complexity and benefits be to installing other sizes, such as 5x7s or 6x9s or even 6-1/2s?
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5x7 should fit without an adapter needed. There are only miniscule size differences between a speaker called 5x7 and one called 6x8 - not the 1" in each direction you would expect. They typically share the same mounting holes on the flanges.

I personally would put your best speakers into the front doors, however. I wouldn't bother going with a 6x9 in the liftgate, but anything can be done with enough creativity and effort. In both locations, I'm finding that I'm really going to need to add some sound deadening (Dynamat and related product) to even make use of the output from the stock speakers and Mach RCU, as I can rattles galore at certain frequencies.
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So will 6x9s fit in the lift gate without much modification? I'm not opposed to drilling new screw holes but if I have the make the speaker holes in the metal bigger I don't want to go that far. It's just a lot easier to find 6x9s. I'll prob put 6x8s in the doors.
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Theoretically anything will fit with adapters. I have 5.25's and 6.5's in my Bull. I used Scosche adapters. I choose the highest quality speakers that would work then put them in.
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As far as brands go, I've had Insignia's (Best Buy brand, 6x9), Pioneer's and Kenwoods. I've been happy with every set, but I am pretty happily pleased with the Pioneers. A lot of people like Infinity speakers; I've never had any experience with them though.
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If your looking for a pioneer head unit I have an 8300UB for sale. Asking 120 + shipping
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A lot of people like Infinity speakers; I've never had any experience with them though.
Ahem, I do. My 5.25's & 6.5's are Infinity Kappa Perfects made by Harmon Kardon and they are the best you can buy from Harmon Kardon. You will hear the "incidentals and things not noticeable from other speakers. But most folks grab a reference set and call it a day. The two ways are good and the components are much better. But nothing less than the "kappa perfects for me".

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Recently, a lot of people on car audio forums have been raving about JBL's new MS-62C speakers. These come only as components with a 6.5 inch round woofers. There are some reviews here:

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I believe the normal price of these is around $200 a set or a bit less.

If this is more than you want to spend, consider the Pioneer D-series components. These normally cost $100-120 online, and normally have pretty good reviews. Their package comes with a mounting bracket for oval speaker holes, so these should be an easy bolt on install.

Infinity speakers are pretty popular on Ford cars. I guess it's because Infinity is one of few companies that still offers components with 6x8 oval woofers. However, a lot of people have noted that their tweeters may sound fatiguing at high volume level, at least if installed as components with tweeters on the dash or sail panels. It looks like the JBL MS speakers above may offer something similar to "Infinity Kappa" sound but without harshness (the woofer cone is made from the same glass-fiber material, but crossovers and tweeters are different). I didn't hold Infinity speakers in very high regard but I was really surprised with the Infinity Kappa 120.9w subwoofer. To my ear it sounds very clean, transparent, and musical, but will pound hard and make the car parts rattle if asked too.

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