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Old 12-01-2011, 03:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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For me, the novelty of having 4 on the floor would go away the second I went up against the same car in "D" and watching him/her drive away from me which would happen every time with these cars.

No way you could out shift the "brains" on the new SHO's.

I do understand those that yearn nostagicaly back to the manualy shifting cars and going fast days.
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Old 11-10-2012, 08:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The only reason I really use the paddle shifters in my Limited is to pass on the highway. I find it annoyingly difficult to get it out of 6th sometimes. By the time it finally comes out of 6th, the system kinda goes "oh ****, he really wants to move" and then downshifts to 4th. I use it to change one gear instead of allowing the auto to mess it up. I do miss an manual tranny, though. 60% of my vehicles have been 5 speeds.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
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My guess is that part of it has to do with the fact that most manual transmissions made for transverse applications (FWD and AWD) can't handle the 350+ lb·ft torque output of the EcoBoost V6. All the cars I can think of that have that kind of power and have manual transmissions have a longitudinal drivetrain.

So for the foreseeable future, if you want great performance and a stick, you're going to have to find it in a smaller car or a car with longitudinal drivetrain. Remember Ford is now selling the Focus ST, which should be a riot with 270 lb·ft and only 3200 lbs.
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Tell me if I'm wrong, but don't cars like the Subaru Impreza and the Lancer Evolution have a transverse layout [Even as all wheel drive] but they still come in manuals, and you see a select few of those pushing 400+HP tuned. I don't know if those are tranny eating monsters though lol.
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Subaru's are always longitudinal, the Lancer is transverse, so it would be the only car that would be comparable.
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My guess is that part of it has to do with the fact that most manual transmissions made for transverse applications (FWD and AWD) can't handle the 350+ lb·ft torque output of the EcoBoost V6. All the cars I can think of that have that kind of power and have manual transmissions have a longitudinal drivetrain.

So for the foreseeable future, if you want great performance and a stick, you're going to have to find it in a smaller car or a car with longitudinal drivetrain. Remember Ford is now selling the Focus ST, which should be a riot with 270 lb·ft and only 3200 lbs.
You're hitting the nail on the head. One of the guys over at Ecoboost Owners just got a manual Focus ST and he is having a blast with it. And it looks like a really fun little performance package!
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My guess is that part of it has to do with the fact that most manual transmissions made for transverse applications (FWD and AWD) can't handle the 350+ lb·ft torque output of the EcoBoost V6. All the cars I can think of that have that kind of power and have manual transmissions have a longitudinal drivetrain.

So for the foreseeable future, if you want great performance and a stick, you're going to have to find it in a smaller car or a car with longitudinal drivetrain. Remember Ford is now selling the Focus ST, which should be a riot with 270 lb·ft and only 3200 lbs.
It all comes down to demand, engineering and cost.

Any transmission can be built to handle the load. SHONut made a gear set for the V6 SHO to handle 500ftlb so there is no reason why Ford can not do it.

Why it comes down to demand is if enough people want it and right now Ford does not see the demand.

Cost is the other factor to design and build it. If it cost Ford may not do it.
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It all comes down to demand, engineering and cost.

Any transmission can be built to handle the load. SHONut made a gear set for the V6 SHO to handle 500ftlb so there is no reason why Ford can not do it.

Why it comes down to demand is if enough people want it and right now Ford does not see the demand.

Cost is the other factor to design and build it. If it cost Ford may not do it.
Wasn't SHOnut's "all famous" SHO somewhere in the 600hp range? [Could be mistaken]
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:27 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Wasn't SHOnut's "all famous" SHO somewhere in the 600hp range? [Could be mistaken]
It was up there but I do not know the exact number.
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