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Old 09-09-2009, 10:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone ever done a water pump on the Duratec 3.5? I was just curious.... Looks like a major hassle looking at my service manual. Do they go bad? And at what mileage? Apparently the water pump is driven by the timing chain. Looks like the whole front of the engine has to comes apart, including the main timing chain.

Labor time is 7.4 hours (warranty) and 10.8 hours (cust pay rate). Yikes! That could end up being a $1200 repair.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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kmohr3,
I think is a major problem for this 3.5 engine. I love my car but I am glad I had my water pump replaced under warranty. My car has 28,000 used miles. After I purchased car noticed coolant leak. They replaced water pump, said was bad and leaking out of bottom weep hole of pump. Here is the description of what was done for pump replacement.

removed alternator and A/C compessor
drained coolant
removed intake and valve covers
removed power steering pump
removed inner fender
removed crank damper
removed front exhaust y pipe
removed engine mount
removed timing cover
removed left and right vcts
removed timing chain tensioner and guides
removed timing chain
then finally replaced water pump
also changed oi

After I read this description I almost **** my pants. This is easily a 1000 $$$ plus job. In about eight years you will see these taurus and any other ford with the 3.5 engine for sale with a bad water pump huge job. This is a design flaw. I paid nothing, under warranty
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Old 09-27-2009, 11:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!I wondered about the water pump when I first saw a pic of the fabulous 3.5L. I was going to buy a 2010 but now?? I dunno?
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Has anyone ever done a water pump on the Duratec 3.5? I was just curious.... Looks like a major hassle looking at my service manual. Do they go bad? And at what mileage? Apparently the water pump is driven by the timing chain. Looks like the whole front of the engine has to comes apart, including the main timing chain.

Labor time is 7.4 hours (warranty) and 10.8 hours (cust pay rate). Yikes! That could end up being a $1200 repair. [/b]
i can tell you i just signed a work order for over 5g for a new motor. then a few months later signed a check
after it was totalled.

thank god rid of that pos.
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2 years old and needs a water pump. WTF is that about.
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!I wondered about the water pump when I first saw a pic of the fabulous 3.5L. I was going to buy a 2010 but now?? I dunno?[/b]

you don;t buy a car because of how easy it will be to work on it, you buy because you like it.

savo i think he was just wondering but, if it needs a water pump isn't it under warranty.
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QUOTE (risoworker @ Sep 27 2009, 10:55 PM)
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QUOTE (toronut @ Sep 27 2009, 12:10 PM)
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you don;t buy a car because of how easy it will be to work on it, you buy because you like it.

savo i think he was just wondering but, if it needs a water pump isn't it under warranty.
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Ahh good. It was still conjecturing. I was starting to worry.
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Old 09-29-2009, 07:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I love the Taurus, all Gens. Since the introduction of the Duratec in '96 the performance is great but "normal" replacement items are becoming labor intensive eg spark plugs, alternators, water pumps, A/C, . It's all about cramming a big V6 under the hood. I hope the 3.5L doesn't develop a reputation for abominable repair costs down the road.
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Here's another dreaded repair - replacing engine oil pan - requires pulling engine/trans, removing trans from engine, removing flywheel, front timing cover and pulley. I just might have to buy the Ford ESP, unfortunately I will have to make up my mind in another 11,000 miles because the extended warranty has to be purchased before the car is out of the bumper-to-bumper 3 yr/36000 warr
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Old 09-29-2009, 08:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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All that to replace oil pan, is that correct??
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